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Title: Obamanomics: U.S. deficit up 15.7% in first half of fiscal 2011
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Published: Apr 12, 2011
Author: afp
Post Date: 2011-04-12 17:59:01 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Obamanomics in Action, Obama-doma-ding-dong, Obamatuer Hour
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(AFP) – 2 hours ago WASHINGTON — The US budget deficit shot up 15.7 percent in the first six months of fiscal 2011, the Treasury Department said Wednesday as political knives were being sharpened for a new budget battle. The Treasury reported a deficit of $829 billion for the October-March period, compared with $717 billion a year earlier, as revenue rose a sluggish 6.9 percent as the economic recovery slowly gained pace. The Treasury argued that the pace of increase in the deficit was deceptive because of large one-off reductions in expenditures made during the first half of fiscal 2010, compared with previous and subsequent periods. Those included a $115 billion reduction in funds spent on the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) -- the financial institution bailout program -- in March 2010. But 2011 so far has also seen significant increases in spending on defense, Social Security, health and debt service, while receipts have not grown as fast. "The jump in outlays mostly owed to a smaller estimated reduction in TARP outlays this year versus 2010," said Theresa Chen at Barclays Capital Research. However, she said, the trend shows that taxable income is rising at a 6.9 percent annual pace, and individual incomes taxes are up 20.6 percent, "consistent with general economic improvement." The figures came amid a sharp, politically partisan battle in Washington over cutting spending and raising taxes, with President Barack Obama preparing Wednesday to release his plan for reducing the long-term deficit. He also faces a looming battle over increasing the country's official debt ceiling, so that the government can continue to borrow to finance the deficit.
US deficit up 15.7% in first half of fiscal 2011
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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
Financial slavery for you, your children and your grand children..... thank you Libtards....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
How's that tea party thing working out? See tag line:
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
have you forgotten the tea party celebrating the extension of the Bush tax cuts, which added $858 billion to the deficit over 2 years? Nobody takes tea partiers/conservatives seriously when they complain about debt/deficits.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
If Obama hadn't spent 3.7 Trillion instead of the 2.2 trillion the government took in then there wouldn't be a deficit..... now would there?????? Why don't you ask the "Village Idiot" why he doesn't have a "laser like" focus on creating jobs????? that would increase revenues greatly.... and reduce the deficit..... and also reduce the amount of people dependent on the government (you don't want that do you).... less people to vote for "The Party of Losers"....(Democrats)!!!!! Have you gotten your weekly handout yet?????? By the way I thought you were gone for good because of people posting about the "Wookie"???????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Obama's not spending a dime anymore without approval by the GOP controlled House of Representatives.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Hey, you're back and lying! How's that tripled deficit Owe-bama, Reid and Pelosi brought down on us all working out? (laughing)
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
How's that 10% unemployment you told us we'd see after the November election?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
How's that tripled deficit Owe-bama, Reid and Pelosi brought down on us all working out? How's that 10% unemployment you told us we'd see after the November election? In reality, its about 20%...as predicted.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
Chuckles...about as real as your house actually sitting on a stone cliff...
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in the words of George Costanza - 'it's not a lie if you believe it' Remember when the GOP claimed it would cut $100 billion from the budget this year? Instead, they ended up cutting less than $30 billion. Again, read the tag line, the GOP owns the deficit now. And their own plan, with its ridiculous assumptions, STILL doesn't project a balanced budget until 2030.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
“Ultimately, all this rising debt will cost us jobs and damage our economy,” Mr. Obama said. Well just DUH! What an IDIOT!
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
Guess I need to update my filter.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Before you do can you take a message to nolu chan, Robin, Destro, I Don't Think So and the other halfwits with whom you associate? LOLAY!
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
Ha...
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What 'budget'? The GOP will produce one this fall....Pelosi Galore didn't get a budget done last year... And honestly, if you want to quote the delusions of the dwarf, don't bother, GO65. He makes things up due to his insane fixation on me. Christ, last time I checked he was claiming I did backgrounds on posters (how you do that escapes me) that my house isn't exactly as I describe (even though some in the forum have knowledge of it, and google earth is available)...he even claimed I fucked with his credit cards at some point.... If you need 'help' speaking about politics with me...well, just go away. Its simply to pathetic to deal with.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
Yes it is Boofer...oddly...no stone cliff appears near your house. And you never did explain how you combat pistol on your vast property when your house sits on a cliff. Of course, you doing this and falling off a cliff several times on your head is as reasonable an explanation for you as any. ...he even claimed I fucked with his credit cards at some point.... Not what I "claimed". You know what you did - spammed two credit agencies fcr my credit outline [which differes from the profile/history] and then you put in an inquiry on me at my County Courthouse - and you got booted from LP for it. Own it for once, Boofer. You claimed that you used Skip Intro's ISP to get information on him. You did that HERE...on LF. It's like you claiming that you would never recommend LaRosa's chili even though on 9/21 of last year you do just that on their FB page...your name and that silly assed basslipped picture of you on the Harley is there too. It's one lie after another with you Boofer.
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I see you do that quite frequently.
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
I don't lie. And, the biggest whopper on the internet right now is that you were hacked. Are you Ibluafartsky?
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That is a lie.
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
Notably missing is your denial that you've lied and that you're Ibluafartsky.
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Is your acknowledgement that you lie.
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
I don't lie Yukon and I triple dog dare you to show where I have. Let's start here: You are Ibluafartsky. But again I note that notably missing is your denial that you've lied and that you're Ibluafartsky.
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Easy. "Yukko is STILL gay, Boofer and Diva are revealed to be siblings" war posted on 2011-04-14 7:50:05 ET Come on war. Get your mind out of the gutter. That is no way for a grown man to talk. A K A Stone posted on 2011-04-14 7:53:15 ET
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
yukon, DESTRO posts here as "godwinson", he was bad mouthing you all last week but since you came back, the cowardly little weasel ran back to tpf to hide. he's not man enough to face you.
Its not worth addressing with him. He's increasingly delusional.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
he's not man enough to face you. He wasn't man enough at LP, either. That whole group at The Perverts Forum are cowards.
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
None of those are a lie.
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That is a lie.
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
Whatever, YankBoy...
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Yes, dwarf....whatever. You are dishonorable.
Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.
You might want to flip on the news - the GOP controlled house just passed a spending bill for the remainder of 2011 that failed to cut spending. Sorry, I don't pay much attention to the obsessions some posters have with each other. Point is, in this case he's right and you are wrong. Now, shall we revisit your prediction that the GOP wouldn't raise the debt celling in light of this weeks news that McConnell is advising Republicans not to filibuster a Senate vote on increasing the cap while Boehner is asking wall street how long he can go before he eventually agrees to raise the cap?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
You might want to learn the difference between a 'spending bill' and a budget pass by the House of Representatives, ratified by the Senate, and signed off on by POTUS. Or you can continue to impersonate Pelosi Galore, who couldn't produce a budget last year...first time in century or so as I recall.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
spin spin spin. I can't blame you - you touted how the results of the November election were going to change things, and all your beloved Republicans have done since taking control of the power of the purse in January is more of the same. Maybe things will be different in 2012! :-)
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Just as a matter of record, Pelosi is no longer the speaker. Nothing comes up for a vote in the House unless the Republicans approve it, and nothing passes the House without Republican support. Last week the Republicans had the chance to fulfill their promise to cut spending by $100 billion dollars. They could have shut down the government. Heck, they could have cut spending by far "more" than $100 billion dollars. Instead, they passed a bunch of phantom cuts that in reality increase spending by $3.3 billion. Sorry, that isn't Pelosi's fault.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
The GOP only controls the House. They can't force the Kenyan coon and the Senate to adopt their proposals. They could have shut down the government. To what end? To have dickwads like you accusing them of playing politics to deprive government workers of their salaries? Of course we know it is you dickwads who are the ones playing politics.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
Hey coon!!!
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You might want to learn the difference between a 'spending bill' and a budget pass by the House of Representatives, ratified by the Senate, and signed off on by POTUS. spin spin spin. Get back to me when you realize the difference.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
I could be mistaken, go, but it seems to me he wants you to verify not only the cockamamie appropriations process but his illiteracy as well.
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Yep.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
He's desperate to avoid accepting the fact that the GOP owns the deficit now. Had the GOP simply refused to pass a spending bill, the government would be shut down now.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
That's the kind of delusion and insanity that I can't understand. You can blame Bush for the deficit created by the A-Stan and Iraq wars. EVERYTHING ELSE is fundamentally the commie Dem-RATS' fault and the Commie-in-Chief.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
I blame him for a total abdication of any sense of oversight while my Wall St. brethen looted and bankrupted the nation on borrowed money.
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How is there GOP "control" when the Senate owns a RAT-majority? Not to mention the "control" via the veto pen of the Dem President.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
"Desperate" is you being charitable. "Eaten up with the goofies" is how I would characterize it.
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If the account was hacked ... password changed --- yukon by that time was locked out ! ignorance is repairable - stupid is forever !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
We've been here and done that... Dubya does indeed share blame. However you ALWAYS fail to indict Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee along with Dems Waters, Dodd and other Democrats ad infinitum for their respective roles in the bailout and endorsing mortgages to deadbeats. Why is that?
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
That would make for a nice, stylish tattoo across your bulging forehead.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
If the account was hacked ... password changed --- yukon by that time was locked out ! Coudn't you read - comprehend - comment on that remark !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
ignorance is repairable - stupid is forever ! That would make for a nice, stylish tattoo across your bulging forehead. Quick definitions from WordNet (ad hominem) Å6; adjective: appealing to personal considerations (rather than to fact or reason)
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
None of them had anything to do with it. It was all Paulsen. They believed a grown-up rather than Carlo Gambino was in charge. Hank Paulsen is the biggest theif that this nation has ever seen.
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I don't know what that means? If your reference is to liar loans, they came to be when the GOP controlled Congress.
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...with room left over for a Mail Pouch ad...
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Funny, none of these folks appear to be GOP
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
I've bitch slapped this premise so many time, Paddy. FN and FM had nothing to do with the financial meltdown.
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In all seriousness, you are right - the House, Senate and Presidency all share responsibility for the deficit. But I'm dealing with Badeye, who blamed the deficit of 2007-08 on House Democrats. Therefore, by that logic, House Republicans are responsible for the current deficit. And, keep in mind that House Republicans touted a spending cut "deal" that didn't actually cut spending.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
January of 2007 - January of 2011. This is why I don't have time for your bullshit today.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
And yet you keep spewing it: Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Your graph is bullshit, promoted by a classic "tax and spend" organization, but you are too stupid too realize that.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
Boy Blunder was POTUS.
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And Republicans took over the House in January of 2011. And yet we're still running record deficits (which now are solely Obama's fault I suppose).
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Yea... tell me about it... "I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
It takes a pretty amazing ability to deny reality to argue that Bush's tax cuts, the GOP medicare expansion, Bush's TARP program, the Bush war in the Iraq, and the Bush recession didn't cause an increase in the deficit. Keep in mind, the GOP could have sent the Senate a balanced budget rather than a bill full of phony cuts that actually increased spending.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
ANd keep in mind the Democrats failed to produce a budget for 2011 and added almost $1 trillion to the deficit in 8 months...... What were you saying about Bush??? "I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Not to mention the Democrats controlled the House, and by it spending, since January of 2007, until January of 2011. And the deficit tripled.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
See tag line: It's the GOP's baby now.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
The next thing he/she will say is that Clinton created a surplus..... The GOP was in charge of the House and Senate at that time.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
And a bill just passed the House today cutting $6 Trillion over the next 10 years..... And guess what??? Your hero vowed to veto it if it passes the Senate... what a POS....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Which relies on overly optimistic predictions to theoretically achieve a balanced budget by 2030, economic predictions made by the same group that predicted an economic boom as a result of the Bush tax cuts in 2001 that didn't occur. So don't give me this crap about Republicans caring about deficits when the "best" they can come up with is an unrealistic target of a balanced budget in 19 years. And you and I both know the "only" reason this passed is because it will die in the Senate. We saw today what the GOP actually stands for when Obama signed into law the GOP-supported spending bill for the rest of fiscal 2011 that actually increases spending.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
economic predictions made by the same group that predicted an economic boom as a result of the Bush tax cuts in 2001 that didn't occur. I think you can blame BS like NAFTA and the housing bubble for most of that.... We saw today what the GOP actually stands for when Obama signed into law the GOP supported spending bill for the rest of fiscal 2011 that actually increases spending. And why is that????? Because Obama wouldn't approve any spending cuts????? Since he took office he has spent as much as he can on all of his buddies, like lobbyists, unions, and a whole bunch of other BS Liberal organizations..... If he was worried about the deficit why didn't he say give me a bill with "Hundreds of billions" worth of cuts?????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Because Republicans continually fool folks like yourself into thinking that they actually support spending cuts. When push came to shove last week, they didn't support cutting spending at all. But hey, they have folks like you that will continue to blame liberals. He did, it was called the Affordable Care Act. Or did you forget the GOP complaining last year that Obama was going to cut Grandma's medicare and ration care by sending everyone to death panels as a result of his spending cuts?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Great chart. Now tell us what changed when the deficit massively grew in 2001.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Looks like $600 billion spread out over 2-3 years......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
The Clinton dot com bust recession.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
I forgot about that.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
That he pissed away 200bkn in surplus funds...made a couple hundred billion and then pissed away a trillion bucks IN ONE YEAR...
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Of COURSE you did...but being the good little BOT you've now remembered that universal phrase that excuses the incompetence of the GOP in one quick moment: IT'S CLINTON'S FAULT!!!!! You may now proceed with your renewed sense of purpose...
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IT'S CLINTON'S FAULT!!!!! You may now proceed with your renewed sense of purpose... The grey lines on the chart represent "recessions", I forgot what that recession was caused by, now I remember..... But.... the one thing I have always known and will always remember is "CLINTON SUCKS".... even with all his money the only person he could find to give him a BJ was as big as a 1969 Coupe de Ville....... There you feel better now.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Where???? "I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
If you are going to blame Obama for the FY09 deficit, then blame REpublicans for the FY11 deficit. Deal?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Deal? It was the Democrats in the House and Senate that are responsible for the 2009 budget..... And the GOP is only "partially" responsible for the last 5 months of 2011. They tried to get more cuts and couldn't get them, so they said OK we will fight the big battle later for 2012.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
On the chart that YOU posted in #64. Are you disavowing that chart with your new one? The "recession" btw was caused by the decrease in spending associated with Y2K.
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The 2009 budget that was submitted [in 2008] was a joke. The WH KNEW that the US was in recession and totally mis-projected revenues. Before Obama took office, the deficit projected out @ 1.2trillion. Before he could blink in office the revenues plummeted and unemployment was over 8% on it's way to 10%. You folks continually discount the downward momentum that existed in the economy when Obama took office and that was then stopped nearly dead in its tracks within 6 months of the stim.
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Don't you mean the Democrats in the House and Senate?????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
No. You do know who, under the law, is required to write and submit an Omnibus budget?
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Spending bills originate in the House. They are supposed to anyways.
Bills for raising revenue, i.e. taxes and tariffs etc, must originate in the House.
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Nobody is discounting the disaster that occurred when the Democrats took Congress in 2007, which is why they were promptly thrown out.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
Recessions come and recessions go and will cure itself naturally in a short period of time, "usually" 1-2 years. It's when you go screwing around with the economy that causes recessions to last longer (sometimes way longer) than if you just would have left things alone. 2 prime examples of this was Roosevelts The New Deal and Japans 10 years of "Stimulus" bills..... The New Deal had some parts in it that were good but most of it was bad, that is what extended The Great Depression for so long. The only thing that got this country out of it's funk was WW2...... A lot of people finally realized the New Deal was a big mess so did away with a lot of it after his death. In fact the first piece of legislation passed was term limits on presidents, minimize the damage so to speak that any one president could do...... Some of The New Deal lasts to this day, Social Security being one example..... Now the Japanese suffered the same problem back in the early 90s that we currently have. They had a real-estate bubble burst, spawning a banking and credit crisis that drove the whole economy down, hard. The Japanese then tried stimulating the economy with giant doses of government spending, which didn't work too well and brought on deficits that lasted for many years. In fact I don't think they have completely recovered from their mistakes yet......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
The Paul 2012 budget Bill was just voted on in the House yesterday.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
The dems were put into the Congress because Boy Blunder and the GOP Congress totally screwed the US in every way imaginable. The dems inherited every prpblem that the US has.
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Sounds like you are correct.
The dems Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
Thanks for the correction.
Correct answer, you win a giant cookie of your choice......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Bull. There isn't an instance in modern economics wherein economies were not repaired by government intervention. Even your Panic of 1873 (which lasted 6 years almost everywhere) wasn't reversed until the nations affected embarked on massive infrastructure spending. IN the US, it was on railroads and roads. In European economies it was so-called social spending. A recession can only end if spending increases. When there are no private pools of capital available, a recession will not end. It's the Keynesian dynamic at its essence: Increase government spending and cut taxes during a downturn...
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Wha...chuckle...huh? The GOP created them...the oil crisis of the 1970's was Nixon...stag and then hyperinflation...Nixonomics...explosion of debt and deficits, meltdown of S&L's and then a bank panic...Reagan...further erosion of debt and deficits and then recession and the INSANE embarkation of massive military intervention in the mideast that has made the US less safe and led directly to 9/11...Poppy...a moronic tax cut and fiscal and regulatory policies that resulted in the worst downturn since the 1930's...Boy Blunder. Stack that up against Clinton getting a blow job.
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The dems created the entitlements and the entitlement mentality. Get rid of them and no more debt. Democrats are evil, they are so evil they even murder little innocent babies. In Obamas case even after being born.
Correct answer, you win a giant cookie of your choice...... So did they create or inherit? Since you are giving out the cookies maybe you can translate. I agree with the GOP part though because they created the problems so why would they fight them?
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What do you propose we do with the sick, poor and elderly? Why is it that other nations take care of them but the Greatest Nation in the History of the World cannot?
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The only diff is they paid corps and businesses directly to do the killing. The procedure you describe has been in effect for close to 20 years with nary a GOP pres/congress stopping it. Tell me, did Terri Schiavo not happen under orders from a GOP judge, in a GOP governored state, under a GOP both house congress, under a GOP pres? I rest my case.
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Why is it that other nations take care of them but the Greatest Nation in the History of the World cannot? Because there is no constitutional authority for government to take from some to give to others. In other words, we were not designed to be socialist. That's one aspect that made America different that the rest of the world. We have churches, families and charities to care for the sick, poor and elderly.
If you're arguing that the GOP is just as bad as the Dems, then I agree.
There is constitutional authority to maintain an orderly society. In fact, the organizing principle of any government, after war making powers, is exactly that...maintain order. The burden on the private health care system alone violates that principle.
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You other bullshit aside Stack that up against Clinton getting a blow job and forcing banks to give home loans to inner city drug addicts and prostitutes which is the core problem behind the finacial mess we have now which has been proven to you, yet you choose to remain in denial.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
Look back to post #93, inherit was scratched out and created was inserted....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Why is it that other nations take care of them but the Greatest Nation in the History of the World cannot? "GOVERNMENT RULES AND REGULATIONS" have created that mess you describe..... Socialized medicine in other countries does not do a good job of taking care of the sick/elderly. If they determine that treating you is a waste of money you get no treatment, at least here you have "still" the option to seek and get treatment..... pay for it out of your own pocket if you have to but still available.... but not for much longer if ObozoCare gets fully implemented.... If you want an example I will show you.... I'm retired military on the government sponsored insurance plan called Tricare. I recently had an ear infection and called the Base Hospital to get an appointment for treatment. I was told over the phone it would be "9" days before I could be seen... yea right.. I guess maybe me possibly loosing my hearing in that ear wasn't very important to them. So I went to the local emergency room and got seen in 2 hours, cost me a $20 copay but was well worth it... One idea out there is to give "vouchers" to people to enable them to get private insurance that would be much cheaper for the taxpayer and more effective for the patients.... in essence do away with Medicare and Medicaid.. but as it stands right now that's not going to happen with the Dems in charge. They are totally against anything other than ObozoCare, it's their Holy Grail for getting control of you, take your freedoms away from you..... that make you happy????? As far as the poor goes.... well "most" of them are that way because they want to be that way.... I know that sounds stupid but it's true in more ways than one.. Ignorance is probably the biggest reason for poverty, laziness is probably #2, single parentage is probably #3... All of those Welfare programs that are "SUPPOSED" to be helping these people are actually doing the opposite..... they aren't solving the problems, only exacerbating them..
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Chuckles...good thing you didn't attempt to refute historical facts, Padlock. Stack that up against Clinton getting a blow job and forcing banks to give home loans to inner city drug addicts and prostitutes which is the core problem behind the financial mess we have now which has been proven to you, yet you choose to remain in denial. That's a lie from every angle: 1) The Home Loan program under Clinton required a three year work history of provable income. 2) Those loans were at a fixed rate and required PMI. 3) They had nothing to do with the current financial mess. 4) The bank mortgages at the center of the current mess were mostly issued after Boy Blunder's HUD relaxed the standards in 2003. But you know all of this, Padlock.
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Rek. The democrat platform is evil. It is what their party is based on. It is like a magnet and it pulls evil people to it. There are evil Republicans too. But not all of them as in the Democrats.
Absolutely!
I notice war didn't respond to your well made points.
You're out of your mind. What government rules and regulations keep a non insured person from getting the same treatment for major illnesses as an insured person? Socialized medicine in other countries does not do a good job of taking care of the sick/elderly. Once again you're out of your mind. The US lags HORRIBLY behind nations with single payer systems in health care delivery to almost all demographics. One idea out there is to give "vouchers" to people to enable them to get private insurance that would be much cheaper for the taxpayer and more effective for the patients.... i Here's a better idea...just build clinics, staff them and treat people when they need it? It works in Singapore, France, Italy, Germany, Japan, Israel, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Iran, and is the model for Iraq and the list goes on.
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Huh?
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The ones that make it expensive as hell to get treatment in the first place....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
This is an "intelligent" reply by Stone Standards: "The democrat platform is evil. It is what their party is based on. It is like a magnet and it pulls evil people to it. " No need to go into specifics. No need to even address the topic at hand. Democrats are the Spawn of Satin. That's the only point you need to make. It save a lot of typing, and even better, you don't even have to think to use it.
"You know, it really doesn`t matter what [the media] write as long as you`ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass." - Donald "Leading the Polls" Trump
Good little drone, believe them all you want.... I've been overseas and seen it first hand, I know better...... My second daughter was born in England and has dual citizenship, which means she is eligible for British healthcare. While I was gone on a TDY to Belgium she came down with "Pink Eye". My wife called the local doctor to get an appointment for her, the receptionist told her 2 weeks minimum!!!!!! One week to process the initial paperwork and another week for the appointment.... So my wife took the bus up to Lakenheath (40 miles away) where she was born and got her in the next day.... I suggest if you think socialized healthcare is so "Phucking" great you move to another country and experience it firsthand, before passing judgement on it....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I suggest if you think socialized healthcare is so "Phucking" great you move to another country and experience it firsthand, before passing judgement on it.... Excellent!
Skip. Obama did vote for a bill to allow babies born alive to be simply left alone to die. Obama has no problem with people sticking up sharp metal up in its living quarters and ripping them to shreds. Their actions make them evil. You hated Bush for his wars. I didn't agree with them either. Obama doubled down on them and started a new one. Not a peep from you liberal/commies.
1) I'm not a liberal/commie 2) I'm appalled by Obama's new war, just as I'm appalled that he did nothing to end the Bush ones. I wish someone would challenge him on the D side in 2012. Sadly, that doesn't look like it's going to happen.
"You know, it really doesn`t matter what [the media] write as long as you`ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass." - Donald "Leading the Polls" Trump
We're allowed to say 'fuck' here, we just can't say niggers, or chinks and stuff like that -- but maybe chinks, I'm not sure. We can say 'faggot' too.
------------------------------------- You sure defend them a lot.
I had no idea Paulsen were King. And who knew Congressional Committees wield ZERO power. Hank Paulsen is the biggest theif that this nation has ever seen. Yeah, he's a thief...amongst thousands. You don't actually believe one person is pulling ALL the puppet strings, do you?
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
If your reference is to liar loans, they came to be when the GOP controlled Congress. Nevermind. What should I expect from a poster who blames Bush as 0bama is running out of matches and gasoline.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
They aren't just as bad. There are elements of it that are just as bad. But there are also good Republicans. There are few to zero good democrats. I mean who wants to be a member of a party that funding planned parenthood abortions is a top priority?
No, I think if you actually look at my posts you'd see that I'm anti-stupid, not pro Obama. Unfortunately for people like you, nearly all of the pure stupid these days is coming from the far right. With a cast of characters like Newt, Sarah, Michelle, Donald, Christine, Breitbart, et. al. it is a target rich environment.
"You know, it really doesn`t matter what [the media] write as long as you`ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass." - Donald "Leading the Polls" Trump
FN and FM had nothing to do with the financial meltdown. *eyeball roll*
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
What about Rand, Jim, Marco?
It just seems like everytime someone says something about Obama. You want to change the subject to establishment Republicans.
Thank you for some sense of honest analysis. But I'm dealing with Badeye, who blamed the deficit of 2007-08 on House Democrats. Therefore, by that logic, House Republicans are responsible for the current deficit. Well 65, Dems did control both Houses, did they not? House Republicans are guilty of being bamboozled into financing two fake wars and mostly responsible for the deficits we're incurred thus far. OTOH, why hasn't 0bama pulled out of Iraq like he promised? And why aren't Dems pressuring him about it? Moreover, why are the Dems supporting the Nobel Peace Prize winning warmonger for his foray into Libya?
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
Maybe because there is a difference with taking exception to something President Obama did, said or believes in and sounding like an extreme wacko on the subject of the President. I wouldn't sign on to the extreme views your emotional reaction to Obama distorts your outlook on the man to either. Your rather unfair portrayal of him works to his favor, not yours.
But not the Presidency. Agreed, and don't forget Medicare Part D - supported by Paul Ryan among others. Our withdrawal from Iraq is still scheduled for completion by the date negotiated by the Bush administration. Obama never promised an immediate pullout. And many Democrats have been outspoken in their criticism of Obama for his actions in Libya.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
For instance?
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Oh well, he's young he'll learn what's what eventually.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I've been overseas and seen it first hand, I know better...... As have I and my one son studies languages and has been in - and taken ill - in several nations. I also have had to deal with hockey related injuries in Canada. Belgium has walk in clinics throughout the nation and, if a clinic is not open, there are a number of "emergency centers" that will take walk-ins. Also, Belgium, France, Italy and Germany will allow pharmacies to dispense medicine for common affliction, conditions such as pink eye would probably qualify. So, either you were under informed while in Belgium or you tried the American route. You also perpetuate the myth that doctors here have tons of openings for people like you who need to see a doctor. They don't.
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I'm 53 and have raised 4 kids. I've traveled the world...as have a couple of my children. The health care system here is horrible. Anyone promoting otherwise is under informed.
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These are some examples of state and federal government regulations and rulings that drive up healthcare costs..... it's not all inclusive cause I just don't know them all.... FDA regulation of existing and new drugs coming to the marketplace drives up prescription costs by 15-20%...... Insurance policies "mandated" to cover things such as plastic surgery, breast enhancement, abortions, accupuncture, massage therapy, podiatry and osteopathy...... Guaranteed issue” allows people to wait till they are sick and then buy insurance; “community rating” prevents insurers from charging different prices to people of different ages and health status. These may sound like compassionate ideas, until you realize they make insurance so expensive that millions of people are exposed to financial ruin because they aren’t allowed to buy basic policies focused on catastrophic costs. (Sound familiar?? ObozoCare)!! Not being able to carry your insurance policy from one state to the other....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Challenge. Insurance policies "mandated" to cover things such as plastic surgery, breast enhancement, abortions, accupuncture, massage therapy, podiatry and osteopathy...... Every thing you listed, with the exception of podiatry, is optional coverage that can be negotiated to be provided by a policy. Not one of those is "mandated". BUt why should podiatry be excluded? When I broke my ankle, the ortho I saw is also a podiatrist. Guaranteed issue” allows people to wait till they are sick and then buy insurance; “community rating” prevents insurers from charging different prices to people of different ages and health status. These may sound like compassionate ideas, until you realize they make insurance so expensive that millions of people are exposed to financial ruin because they aren’t allowed to buy basic policies focused on catastrophic costs. (Sound familiar?? ObozoCare)!! Bullshit. Increasing the number of insured increases the number of HEALTHY people who are purchasing a product that they will not use. They far outnumber the number of people who will get sick. What you just posted absolutely defies logic. There is a reason why the health insurance industry isn't fighting all that hard to have HRC repealed. And, btw, the US is probably the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee catastrophic illness coverage for its citizens.
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I think you know that statement is false. No federal money given to Planned Parenthood is used to fund abortions, so how can that be a top priority. "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Kyl said in a speech in opposition to federal funding for Planned Parenthood that "well over 90 percent" of what the organization does is abortion-related. After it was pointed out that it's actually 3 percent, a Kyl spokesman said the comment "was not intended to be a factual statement." What? So what was it intended to be? A joke? A lie? You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
When you give money to an evil organization like Planned Murder it is for abortion. It frees up other funds. Quit pretending. Also show me the constitutional authority of giving money to a group of Eugenics murderers.
That makes sense to do that, they should do more of that here. It really only takes "med techs" to diagnose and treat most minor illnesses....... The clinic at the base hospital is dispensing certain over the counter drugs but not much more than that.... My daughter ended up seeing a "med tech" (not a doctor) for her pink eye because it isn't that serious of an illness. But when your wife is freaking out well what can you say, she had to go "right" then.... I didn't even find out about this till I got back to England 3 weeks later..... But the big difference is in "Life threatening" illnesses (like cancer) and nice to have things like hip and joint replacement, and pacemakers..... If they think you're too old or too ill you won't get treatment...... At least here you still have a decent chance of getting the treatment you need and desire for the more serious things.... I don't think our system is perfect by any means, a big dose of deregulation would go a long ways towards fixing it.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Oh yes they are by some states....... New York requires every insurance policy sold there to cover podiatry. Acupuncture coverage is mandated in 11 states, massage therapy in four, osteopathy in 24, and chiropractors in 47. There are an estimated 1,800 or so such insurance “mandates” across the country, and the costs add up. I don't make the rules, no matter how stupid they are, I just post them.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I bet Walmart could do a good job of treating minor ailments.
But you know just as well as I do the regulations won't allow that..... It's because of a pain in the ass little thing called "LAWYERS"......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Planned Parenthood is a medical service provider. They accept insurance payments as well as payments on a sliding scale from the uninsured. You'd better make sure your insurance provider does not pay for medical care provided by planned parenthood cause if they do - using your logic, your premiums may be freeing up money for abortions.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Now that I've said that it got me to thinking about Massachusetts and RomneyCare, gotta look that one up......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Are you channeling Kyl?
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Isn't channeling what the witch/bitch Hillary did when she was "talking" to Elanor Roosevelt? I don't channel it is demonic.
Here I will just post the links to it so you can see for yourself..... I would just imagine the average taxpayer in Massachusetts is pretty pissed off about RomneyCare...... en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Massachusetts_health_care_reform daytontribune.com/romneyc...-massachusetts-%E2%80%93- obamacare-will-bankrupt-the-country/75912/ thepoliticalcarnival.net/...romneycare-contains-some- policies-more-liberal-than-affordable-care-act/
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Are you guys unaware that nany Walmarts already have medical clinics? http://walmartstores.com/healthWellness/7613.aspx They started them in 2007.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
We have a high-deductible policy and a medical savings account, we are the poster child for Republican health-care reforms over the last few years. Our out of pocket for my wife's cancer treatments have run us about $20,000 a year over the last two years. We can afford it, plenty of others couldn't.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
I heard it mentioned before. I thought it was just an idea, which is why I posted what I did.
I haven't seen one yet but had heard some rumblings before about them.... Figured they got shot down because there aren't any around here that I know of...
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Your bullshit has been pointed out to you, yet you continue to ignore it. I guess you think the folks who jumped to their deaths during 911 committed suicide rather than were murdered. -- Clinton sued a lender named Accubank in 1998 under the CRA , forcing it a to write $2.1 billion in subprimes. Clinton then sued Columbia Mortgage in 1999, forcing it to write $6 billion in subprimes. You can see Clinton's Secretary of HUD (Andrew Cuomo) crowing about these "victories" on YouTube if you search just a bit. What Clinton did was to get a ball rolling that nobody could stop. Banks had gotten the message. If you don’t relax your standards and start writing high-risk loans, the government will sue you. If you do write high-risk loans, the government will reward you with a guarantee. What followed was the housing disaster as we know it. The disaster quickly became much larger than the subprime problem. Once the banks had gotten into the psychology of realizing that bad behavior was being rewarded, there was nothing stopping them from expanding this concept. Why make high-risk loans only to low-income people? Why not make money on the transaction fees associated with selling high-risk mortgages to everyone, then sell those mortgages upstream, ultimately to someone guaranteed directly by Fannie & Freddie or to Fanny & Freddie themselves? It is ridiculous to insist that the subprime mortgages themselves must do all the damage if we are to credit the CRA for the problem. If a guy blows up a dam (as Clinton did by distorting the market) then we blame him, not the water that he releases, for doing all the further and larger damage downstream.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
The website shows I have one by me, but the only thing there is a pharmacy, optomologist, and a bank....... Woodfern???? Woodgreen???? something like that.. Now they could be running it out of the womens bathroom and I wouldn't know it, cause I can't go in there!!!! LOL......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Padlock...are you this fucking stupid? I TOLD you what was going on at Accubank. Like you, they hated niggers and spics. Period.
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Pardon my jumping in here, but I agree 100% with Stone in this case.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
And many Democrats have been outspoken in their criticism of Obama for his actions in Libya. a) 0bama certainly did schedule a pull out. b) Few Dems have been outspoken in their criticism of 0bama, and IF they have, it's been barely a whisper compared to the cacophony of screeching criticism of Bush for the same thing. The hypocrisy and lies of Bamster and the Dems has been rife.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
You may want to review the "U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement" negotiated by the Bush administration and the Iraqi government in 2008. It calls for all U.S. troops to leave Iraq by the end of 2011. As of now, there are about 40,000 U.S. troops left in Iraq. Several high-profile Democrats have sharply criticized Obama, along with liberal bloggers and pundits. Examples include Reps. Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.), Donna Edwards (Md.), Mike Capuano (Mass.), Dennis Kucinich (Ohio), Maxine Waters (Calif.), Rob Andrews (N.J.), Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas), Barbara Lee (Calif.) and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.). Kucinich even called for Obama to be impeached. See: http://nation.foxnews.com/libya/2011/03/20/house-democrats-freak-out-after-obama-takes- military-action-libya#ixzz1JkLNlcop Can you point me to a single Republican who called for Bush to be impeached over invading Iraq? And speaking of "hypocrisy", with all these Republicans complaining over the cost of our involvement in Libya, can you point me to any of them who argued we should have paid for our war in Iraq?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
I think it's because they feel what the hell are we doing there anyway??? There doesn't seem to be a goal or stategy for that matter.... I would imagine they also think why are we helping the rebels, when Obozo wouldn't even open his mouth to support the citizens of Iran when Amendenijad was slaughtering them in the streets...... Nothing foreign policy wise we've done in the last couple of years makes any sense..... Especially in the Middle East, if they don't get that area quieted down and get rid of the radicals the whole world will suffer for it.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I spoke of the Party as a whole. There are some good Republicans, I agree, but they are few and far between and have no real 'pull' when compared to the vast numbers of leftists/moderates. What makes me attack the Republican Party is that they pretend to be conservative as a whole, and they are not. They are left/moderate as a whole. There are some Democrats that are more conservative than some Republicans. Either way, to argue the merits of one Party over the other is like arguing which group of whores holds the most honor.
That's subjective, therefore debatable. But it's easy enough to tell which whores cost more, just compare prices.
LOL! True, can't argue with that. But the whores on both sides of the aisle cost too much to begin with. Arguing their individual merits beyond that is pointless if you just flat out don't have the money.
Are You that fucking stupid? Banks don't see color or ethnicity. They hate deadbeats. Period. And Clinton forced them to lend to deadbeats.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
You can imagine what it must be like for an American mother with a sick child and no insurance. But the big difference is in "Life threatening" illnesses (like cancer) and nice to have things like hip and joint replacement, and pacemakers..... If they think you're too old or too ill you won't get treatment...... At least here you still have a decent chance of getting the treatment you need and desire for the more serious things.... A certain class of people have a decent chance. As my well insured parents aged, they frequently had seek second opinions from doctors outside their network in order to get treatment. BTW, the problem with the DePuy implant (hip replacement) was identified in Europe because they actually collect data and track the effectiveness of treatments there.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
I would imagine some states are worse than others about that....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
In Accubanc's case, they saw niggers and spics. The case is so well documented only an asshole would argue otherwise. Exactly how much did they give to Ron Paul? And Clinton forced them to lend to deadbeats. I challenge you to post the % of those loans that went into default.
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It was Bush's neocon strategy to stir up the ME to root out terrorism. They know that as freedom takes root in Iraq, it will inspire millions across the Middle East to claim their liberty as well. And when the Middle East grows in democracy, prosperity, and hope, the terrorists will lose their sponsors, lose their recruits, and lose their hopes for turning that region into a base for attacks on America and our allies around the world. snip I said that America's mission in Iraq is to defeat an enemy and give strength to a friend - a free, representative government that is an ally in the war on terror, and a beacon of hope in a part of the world that is desperate for reform. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4632495.stm Mao said “A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.” What did Bush and the GOP think "claiming their liberty" would look like in the Middle East? Ain't no use complaining that they didn't get their "embroidery and a dinner party" - that was never a rational expectation.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
And yet Republicans like Gingrich and Limbaugh were clamoring for the President to act before he did.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
States? It is in the insurance provider's interest to provide the least care possible (contain costs) to maximize profits and it looks like they're accomplishing just that. According to S.E.C. figures compiled by Health Care for America Now (HCAN), which lobbied Congress to pass March's healthcare overhaul, the top six insurers made a total of $3.4 billion in profits during Q3, or $611 million more than they did during the same period last year. The analysis looked at WellPoint Inc., UnitedHealth Group Inc., Aetna Inc., Humana Inc., Cigna Corp. and Coventry Health Care Inc., which had a combined enrollment of 85 million consumers as of Sept. 30. They saw an overall decrease in commercial enrollment of 3.4 million consumers between 2008 and 2010. All but WellPoint, Inc., meanwhile, increased how much of each premium they allocate to administrative costs and profit. On average, each of the six now devotes 20 cents on the dollar to non-medical services, compared to 16.5 cents last year and, according to HCAN, 5 cents in 1993. thehill.com/blogs/healthw...k-profit-records-for-2010 If they play their cards right, old, sick people will die before the insurance provider is forced to approve treatment.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
So are you saying you don't believe that the states have any control over the insurance companies?????? They mandate things all the time that the insurance companies have to cover..... which drives costs up instead of letting the customer determine what coverage he actually wants or needs...... For instance: New York requires every insurance policy sold there to cover podiatry. Acupuncture coverage is mandated in 11 states, massage therapy in four, osteopathy in 24, and chiropractors in 47. There are an estimated 1,800 or so such insurance “mandates” across the country, and the costs add up. If you want a real shock check out Massachusetts and RomneyCare, what a fiasco.... en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Massachusetts_health_care_reform
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Gingrich is a douchebag anyway so nothing would surprise me with him.... I listen to Rush everyday and don't remember him saying anything about taking any action against Khadafy. I do remember him asking the question "Just who are these Rebels anyway"??? Muslim Brotherhood??? Al Qaeda????? Iranian militants?? He also made the comment we were probably going to do it for Europe so they can keep their oil coming in from Libya....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
For instance: New York requires every insurance policy sold there to cover podiatry. Acupuncture coverage is mandated in 11 states, massage therapy in four, osteopathy in 24, and chiropractors in 47. There are an estimated 1,800 or so such insurance “mandates” across the country, and the costs add up. Those mandates were lobbyed for by businesses and professional interests.
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And then there are those of us who are uninsurable cause we're old and have pre-existing conditions. Skinner said there's a reason that shareholders -- and not physicians -- will see the rewards of health plans' higher profits. It's because that's what shareholder-owned companies do. Deciding to pay more for a double bypass or raising the payment for immunizing a baby would be like Toyota deciding to use profits to pay more for engine parts, he said. "They're going to be acquiring the services at minimum cost," Skinner said. "They have a duty to shareholders to maximize share value, and that means maximizing their profits." www.ama-assn.org/amednews/m/2011/03/21/bsb0321.htm Go have another glass of "free market" Kool-aid.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
So ObozoCare is gonna fix all of our problems... huh????? If that's true then why are so many companies getting waivers to opt out of it????? (over 1000 now and still growing). Maybe because it's gonna cost too much, and get even less in return... Oh yea you can have all the aspirin and antihistimines you want, cancer meds or heart transplant forget it..... just go away and die in a gutter somewhere.... You're unproductive now, you don't pay anything in taxes.... We already got your vote so we don't give a damn anymore...... Speaking of partaking of the Koolaid...... does it taste like ca ca???
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Those are not waivers to opt out.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
You seem to be the caca expert, so in all matters caca, I defer to you.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
So what are they then????? A waiver means---"A dispensation, as from a rule or penalty"..... So basically it means "I don't have to play that game"....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Rules for Liberals #15). I know the truth but would rather deny it…..
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Actually I am the expert here and the first thing you have to do is spell it correctly...it's Cah-cah...
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I thought cah cah was what crows say, however I defer to you.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
OK you win, I defer to your superior intellect... So what if I spelled it "doo doo"????.......LOL....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
What does the word "temporary" mean? That's what the waivers are, temporary until there are other options in place.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Temporary/Permanent is doesn't really make any difference how you say it. ObozoCare will be gone sooner or later, either cut off at the knees by the Supreme Court in the next 6 months or repealed in a few years.... I would about bet that if I read the 2012 budget approved by the House there are "NO" funds in it to implement it.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I don't think the Supremes will overturn the new health care laws. That would run counter to the long history of the High Court empowering the federal Government concerning things like commerce. And they have ruled that insurance is commerce. You are just fooling yourself, they are not going to do such a ruling that would overturn the apple cart of so many legal precedents. Especially when at best it would be a 5-4 ruling. Justice Kennedy will go with the side affirming the new health care law. He is the swing vote.
If Obama's health reform is struck down by the Supreme Court than that shoots down the Republican's Medicare reform proposal too.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
I think Republicans are posturing on this - counting on Democrats to save them from having to take responsibility for the consequences of their vote while maintaining whining rights.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Sotamayor and Kagan should have to recuse themselves because of their work on ObamaCare.... But then again they're Libs so they probably won't do the right thing.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
ObozoCare "MANDATES" you buy insurance.... Pauls proposal is for government supplied vouchers (instead of Medicare payments) so the individual can "CHOOSE" what coverage he/she wants.... Big difference.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Really? Where?
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Not really that big a difference at all. Not when there are laws making not having proof of car insurance an infraction, and enough incidents of driving without it a felony. There is a simular imperative to require coverage to make the system work in both the vehicle insurance and health care models. In both, people suffer deep fincial loss and lack of security against their lives being disrupted by not enough people taking responsibility for a nessesary obligation. No, this health care program is a good thing and should be upheld. ANd a public option should be added to it.
That caw-caw
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But Scalia's one working for Ted Olsen's law firm and Ginny Thomas working on Boy Blunder's 2000 transition team weren't conflcts...
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"Doo doo" is a state of being...as in "You are in deep doo doo..." "Cah cah" is a descriptive, an odor or a command... "Your argument is cah cah." "I smell cah-cah. Did one of you kids poop in yer pants?" "Dad/Mom...I'm all done doing cah-cah...com wipe my butt!!"
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Of course it is - senior moment there. Thank you!
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
In Accubanc's case, they saw niggers and spics -- WHO WERE DEADBEATS It's not the bank's fault that such such a large proportion of that population is such. Maybe things would change if useful idiots like you would stop enabling them.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
Meanhile, you've provided no data that those mortgages defaulted.
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And it was never actually a surplus, they just removed social security from the federal budget. The last true 'surplus' was in 1962.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
All I need to see is right here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
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That's not surprising. :-) Check out: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/for-the-war-before-he-was-against-it/73387/ Limbaugh March 7: March 10: March 15: March 17: March 18: March 30: So in the span of few weeks he goes from complaining that Obama didn't act in Libya because he doesn't love America and doesn't see the greatness of America, to complaining that Obama is acting in Libya because he's arming Al Qaeda. Hopefully you listen to Limbaugh for the entertainment value, because you seem to smart to take him seriously.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Wha...huh?
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Cuomo admitted that defaults increased by forcing these loans, and he didn't care.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/what_really_happened_in_the_mo.html
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
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"To learn more about the performance and profitability of CRA-related lending activities, in November of 1999 the Congress directed the Board to conduct a comprehensive study that focused (1) on the delinquency and default rates of loans made in conformity with the CRA and (2) on the profitability of such lending. The Board was further directed to make available to the public the data used as the basis of the study." From the Lit Review part: "For example, observed relationships between delinquency, default, and prepayment rates and the income level of the borrower have been viewed as indicators of the relative performance of CRA-related lending and other lending (see Appendix A).The evidence indicates that borrower income is generally negatively related to delinquency and default, which implies that CRA-related loans--many of which are to low- and moderate-income borrowers--would become delinquent and enter default more often than non-CRA-related loans." Oh wait even better: "Affordable home loans tend to have higher delinquency and default rates than loans extended using traditional underwriting criteria. Freddie Mac, the Mortgage Guarantee Insurance Company (MGIC), the United Guaranty Corporation, GE Capital Mortgage Corporation, and the Consumer Bankers Association all have reported that delinquency rates for affordable home loans have been higher than those for other home loans that are purchased or insured. For example, MGIC reported that the delinquency rate on the affordable home loans it insured in 1994 and 1995 was 2.3 times higher than on standard conventional loans with a 5 percent downpayment.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
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Here is the video link you posted
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
The point that lower rated paper has a higher default rate is a posit akin to "the sun rises in the East." 15% of the 1.3trillion in subprime defaulted in 2009. Most of that was on loans made after 2003 and it was by no means all that defaulted in 2009. Padlock here is claiming that $6bln in bad loans were made. He's lying, of course.
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Who's padlock???? No Gnu Taxes?????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Yes. His claim is that forcing Accubank to obey the law resulted in the bank making $6.1bln in bad loans. Of course, he's provided nothing.
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Of course, he's provided nothing. I do remember something about Accubanc having to pay a big fine for "NOT" making those loans...... It seems like it was somewhere in the 2-3 BILLION dollar range..... As far as default figures, well I have no clue... will have to do a little research....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Here is what I was thinking about....... Mortgage Company To Pay $2.1 Billion In HUD Discrimination Settlement WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, April 3) -- Accubanc Mortgage Corporation of Dallas,Texas, has agreed to a pay $2.148 billion in a settlement with the Department of Housing and Urban Development for discrimination in loan practices. HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo announced the largest settlement ever in an unfair housing dispute. Accubanc will make the money available through mortgage loans and program development to increase home ownership over the next three years. The loans will allow 15,700 low- and moderate-income families and minority families to obtain home mortgages that were previously denied. Accubanc is expected to take a loss on the loans, although the dollar figure was not immediately available. The Fort Worth Human Relations Commission and the City of Dallas filed two discrimination complaints in November 1997 based on tests conducted by the Fort Worth Commission under a HUD grant. The complaints alleged discrimination based on race and national origin in Accubane's lending practices.
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Padlock wants us to believe that $6bln in loans made 10 years earlier caused the multi-trillion dollar mortgage market to crash.
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Yea...don't you love the irony of "local control" coming back and biting you on the ass. Padlock is wired into Texas politics until Ron Paul fired his incompetent ass. I'm sure his ties to Accubank and their merry band of racists are long and deep.
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#2. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
#3. To: CZ82 (#1)
Financial slavery for you, your children and your grand children..... thank you Libtards....
#4. To: go65 (#3)
have you forgotten the tea party celebrating the extension of the Bush tax cuts, which added $858 billion to the deficit over 2 years?
#5. To: CZ82 (#4)
If Obama hadn't spent 3.7 Trillion instead of the 2.2 trillion the government took in then there wouldn't be a deficit..... now would there??????
#6. To: go65 (#5)
Obama's not spending a dime anymore without approval by the GOP controlled House of Representatives.
#7. To: Badeye (#6)
How's that tripled deficit Owe-bama, Reid and Pelosi brought down on us all working out?
#8. To: go65 (#7)
#9. To: Badeye (#8)
In reality, its about 20%...as predicted.
#10. To: war, badeye (#9)
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Chuckles...about as real as your house actually sitting on a stone cliff...
#11. To: go65 (#10)
Remember
#12. To: yukon (#11)
Well just DUH! What an IDIOT!
#13. To: go65 (#12)
Guess I need to update my filter.
#14. To: go65 (#10)
in the words of George Costanza - 'it's not a lie if you believe it'
#15. To: go65 (#10)
Remember when the GOP claimed it would cut $100 billion from the budget this year? Instead, they ended up cutting less than $30 billion.
#16. To: Badeye, Skip Intro (#15)
and google earth is available
#17. To: war (#16)
It's one lie after another
#18. To: yukon (#17)
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#19. To: war (#18)
I don't lie.
#20. To: yukon (#19)
#21. To: war (#20)
Notably missing is
#22. To: yukon (#21)
#23. To: war, A K A Stone (#22)
I don't lie Yukon and I triple dog dare you to show where I have.
#24. To: yukon, godwinson (#13)
Before you do can you take a message to nolu chan, Robin, Destro, I Don't Think So and the other halfwits with whom you associate? LOLAY!
#25. To: yukon (#19)
#26. To: calcon (#24)
yukon, DESTRO posts here as "godwinson", he was bad mouthing you all last week but since you came back, the cowardly little weasel ran back to tpf to hide.
#27. To: yukon (#23)
Yukko is STILL gay, Boofer and Diva are revealed to be siblings"
#28. To: war (#27)
None of those are a lie.
#29. To: yukon (#28)
#30. To: war (#29)
Whatever
#31. To: Badeye (#15)
What 'budget'? The GOP will produce one this fall....Pelosi Galore didn't get a budget done last year...
And honestly, if you want to quote the delusions of the dwarf, don't bother, GO65. He makes things up due to his insane fixation on me. Christ, last time I checked he was claiming I did backgrounds on posters (how you do that escapes me) that my house isn't exactly as I describe (even though some in the forum have knowledge of it, and google earth is available)...he even claimed I fucked with his credit cards at some point..
#32. To: go65 (#31)
You might want to flip on the news - the GOP controlled house just passed a spending bill
#33. To: Badeye (#32)
You might want to learn the difference between a 'spending bill' and a budget pass by the House of Representatives, ratified by the Senate, and signed off on by POTUS.
#34. To: Badeye (#32)
Or you can continue to impersonate Pelosi Galore, who couldn't produce a budget last year...first time in century or so as I recall.
#35. To: go65 (#34)
(Edited)
Last week the Republicans had the chance to fulfill their promise to cut spending by $100 billion dollars.
#36. To: no gnu taxes (#35)
#37. To: go65 (#33)
#38. To: go65 (#34)
Or you can continue to impersonate Pelosi Galore, who couldn't produce a budget last year...first time in century or so as I recall.
#39. To: Badeye, go65 (#37)
You might want to learn the difference between a 'spending bill' and a budget pass by the House of Representatives, ratified by the Senate, and signed off on by POTUS. spin spin spin.
#40. To: no gnu taxes (#35)
#41. To: war (#39)
(Edited)
I could be mistaken, go, but it seems to me he wants you to verify not only the cockamamie appropriations process but his illiteracy as well.
#42. To: go65, war (#41)
the GOP owns the deficit now.
#43. To: Liberator (#42)
You can blame Bush for the deficit created by the A-Stan and Iraq wars.
#44. To: go65 (#33)
your beloved Republicans have done since taking control of the power of the purse in January
#45. To: go65 (#41)
He's desperate to avoid accepting the fact that the GOP owns the deficit now. Had the GOP simply refused to pass a spending bill, the government would be shut down now.
#46. To: Liberator (#44)
yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
#47. To: war (#43)
I blame him for a total abdication of any sense of oversight while my Wall St. brethen looted and bankrupted the nation on borrowed money.
#48. To: BorisY (#46)
ignorance is repairable - stupid is forever !
#49. To: Liberator (#48)
#50. To: Liberator (#48)
To: BorisY
#51. To: Liberator (#47)
#52. To: Liberator (#47)
and endorsing mortgages to deadbeats.
#53. To: Liberator (#48)
#54. To: war (#52)
#55. To: no gnu taxes (#54)
#56. To: Liberator (#44)
How is there GOP "control" when the Senate owns a RAT-majority? Not to mention the "control" via the veto pen of the Dem President.
#57. To: go65 (#56)
But I'm dealing with Badeye, who blamed the deficit of 2007-08 on House Democrats.
#58. To: Badeye, liberator (#57)
This is why I don't have time for your bullshit today.
#59. To: go65 (#58)
#60. To: Badeye (#57)
January of 2007 - January of 2011.
#61. To: war (#60)
Boy Blunder was POTUS.
#62. To: no gnu taxes (#59)
Your graph is bullshit, promoted by a classic "tax and spend" organization, but you are too stupid too realize that.
#63. To: CZ82 (#62)
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Yea... tell me about it...
#64. To: go65 (#63)
Keep in mind, the GOP could have sent the Senate a balanced budget rather than a bill full of phony cuts that actually increased spending.
#65. To: CZ82 (#64)
ANd keep in mind the Democrats failed to produce a budget for 2011 and added almost $1 trillion to the deficit in 8 months......
#66. To: Badeye (#65)
Not to mention the Democrats controlled the House, and by it spending, since January of 2007, until January of 2011.
#67. To: Badeye (#65)
#68. To: go65 (#66)
It's the GOP's baby now.
#69. To: CZ82 (#68)
(Edited)
And a bill just passed the House today cutting $6 Trillion over the next 10 years.....
#70. To: go65 (#69)
#71. To: CZ82 (#70)
(Edited)
And why is that????? Because Obama wouldn't approve any spending cuts????? Since he took office he has spent as much as he can on all of his buddies, like lobbyists, unions, and a whole bunch of other BS Liberal organizations..... If he was worried about the deficit why didn't he say give me a bill with "Hundreds of billions" worth of cuts?????
If he was worried about the deficit why didn't he say give me a bill with "Hundreds of billions" worth of cuts?????
#72. To: CZ82 (#64)
What were you saying about Bush???
#73. To: go65 (#72)
Great chart. Now tell us what changed when the deficit massively grew in 2001.
#74. To: go65 (#72)
Now tell us what changed when the deficit massively grew in 2001.
#75. To: no gnu taxes (#74)
The Clinton dot com bust recession.
#76. To: CZ82 (#64)
#77. To: CZ82, go65 (#75)
I forgot about that.....
#78. To: war (#77)
I forgot about that..... Of COURSE you did...but being the good little BOT you've now remembered that universal phrase that excuses the incompetence of the GOP in one quick moment:
#79. To: war (#76)
That he pissed away 200bkn in surplus funds...made a couple hundred billion and then pissed away a trillion bucks IN ONE YEAR...
#80. To: CZ82 (#79)
#81. To: go65 (#80)
If you are going to blame Obama for the FY09 deficit, then blame REpublicans for the FY11 deficit.
#82. To: CZ82 (#79)
#83. To: CZ82 (#81)
It was the Democrats in the House and Senate that are responsible for the 2009 budget...
#84. To: war (#83)
The 2009 budget that was submitted [in 2008] was a joke. The WH KNEW that the US was in recession and totally mis-projected revenues.
#85. To: CZ82 (#84)
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#86. To: war (#85)
#87. To: A K A Stone (#86)
#88. To: war (#83)
You folks continually discount the downward momentum that existed in the economy
#89. To: war (#83)
You folks continually discount the downward momentum that existed in the economy when Obama took office and that was then stopped nearly dead in its tracks within 6 months of the stim.
#90. To: A K A Stone (#86)
Spending bills originate in the House. They are supposed to anyways.
#91. To: no gnu taxes (#88)
Nobody is discounting the disaster that occurred when the Democrats took Congress in 2007, which is why they were promptly thrown out.
#92. To: war (#87)
#93. To: war (#91)
inherited created every prpblem that the US has. The GOP often hasn't done enough to fight them.
#94. To: no gnu taxes (#93)
#95. To: no gnu taxes (#93)
The dems inherited created every prpblem that the US has. The GOP often hasn't done enough to fight them.
#96. To: CZ82 (#89)
Recessions come and recessions go and will cure itself naturally in a short period of time, "usually" 1-2 years.
#97. To: no gnu taxes (#93)
#98. To: war (#97)
#99. To: CZ82, no gnu taxes (#95)
The dems inherited created every prpblem that the US has. The GOP often hasn't done enough to fight them.
#100. To: A K A Stone (#98)
The dems created the entitlements and the entitlement mentality. Get rid of them and no more debt.
#101. To: A K A Stone (#98)
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Democrats are evil, they are so evil they even murder little innocent babies. In Obamas case even after being born.
#102. To: war (#100)
What do you propose we do with the sick, poor and elderly?
#103. To: Rek (#101)
Tell me, did Terri Schiavo not happen under orders from a GOP judge, in a GOP governored state, under a GOP both house congress, under a GOP pres? I rest my case.
#104. To: We The People (#102)
Because there is no constitutional authority for government to take from some to give to others.
#105. To: war (#97)
#106. To: Rek (#99)
So did they create or inherit? Since you are giving out the cookies maybe you can translate.
#107. To: war (#100)
What do you propose we do with the sick, poor and elderly?
#108. To: no gnu taxes (#105)
(Edited)
You other bullshit aside
#109. To: Rek (#101)
#110. To: Rek (#101)
Tell me, did Terri Schiavo not happen under orders from a GOP judge, in a GOP governored state, under a GOP both house congress, under a GOP pres? I rest my case.
#111. To: CZ82, war (#107)
#112. To: CZ82 (#107)
"GOVERNMENT RULES AND REGULATIONS" have created that mess you describe.....
#113. To: A K A Stone (#111)
#114. To: war (#112)
What government rules and regulations keep a non insured person from getting the same treatment for major illnesses as an insured person?
#115. To: war (#113)
Huh?
#116. To: war (#112)
Once again you're out of your mind. The US lags HORRIBLY behind nations with single payer systems in health care delivery to almost all demographics.
#117. To: CZ82 (#116)
I've been overseas and seen it first hand, I know better...... My second daughter was born in England and has dual citizenship, which means she is eligible for British healthcare. While I was gone on a TDY to Belgium she came down with "Pink Eye". My wife called the local doctor to get an appointment for her, the receptionist told her 2 weeks minimum!!!!!! One week to process the initial paperwork and another week for the appointment.... So my wife took the bus up to Lakenheath (40 miles away) where she was born and got her in the next day....
#118. To: Skip Intro (#115)
#119. To: A K A Stone (#118)
Obama doubled down on them and started a new one. Not a peep from you liberal/commies.
#120. To: CZ82 (#116)
so "Phucking" great
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#121. To: Skip Intro (#119)
I'm not a liberal/commie
#122. To: war (#51)
None of them had anything to do with it. It was all Paulsen.
#123. To: war (#52)
I don't know what that [endorsing mortgages to deadbeats] means?
#124. To: We The People (#103)
If you're arguing that the GOP is just as bad as the Dems, then I agree.
#125. To: A K A Stone (#121)
You sure defend them a lot.
#126. To: war (#55)
I've bitch slapped this premise so many time, Paddy.
#127. To: Skip Intro (#125)
#128. To: Skip Intro (#125)
#129. To: go65 (#56)
In all seriousness, you are right - the House, Senate and Presidency all share responsibility for the deficit.
#130. To: A K A Stone (#128)
#131. To: Liberator (#129)
Well 65, Dems did control both Houses, did they not?
House Republicans are guilty of being bamboozled into financing two fake wars and mostly responsible for the deficits we're incurred thus far.
OTOH, why hasn't 0bama pulled out of Iraq like he promised? And why aren't Dems pressuring him about it? Moreover, why are the Dems supporting the Nobel Peace Prize winning warmonger for his foray into Libya?
#132. To: CZ82 (#114)
#133. To: A K A Stone (#111)
I notice war didn't respond to your well made points
#134. To: CZ82 (#116)
Good little drone, believe them all you want....
#135. To: CZ82 (#133)
#136. To: war (#132)
For instance?
#137. To: CZ82 (#136)
(Edited)
FDA regulation of existing and new drugs coming to the marketplace drives up prescription costs by 15-20%......
#138. To: A K A Stone (#124)
They aren't just as bad. There are elements of it that are just as bad. But there are also good Republicans. There are few to zero good democrats. I mean who wants to be a member of a party that funding planned parenthood abortions is a top priority?
#139. To: lucysmom (#138)
#140. To: war (#134)
Belgium has walk in clinics throughout the nation and, if a clinic is not open, there are a number of "emergency centers" that will take walk-ins. Also, Belgium, France, Italy and Germany will allow pharmacies to dispense medicine for common affliction, conditions such as pink eye would probably qualify.
#141. To: war (#137)
(Edited)
Every thing you listed, with the exception of podiatry, is optional coverage that can be negotiated to be provided by a policy. Not one of those is "mandated".
#142. To: CZ82 (#140)
That makes sense to do that, they should do more of that here. It really only takes "med techs" to diagnose and treat most minor illnesses.......
#143. To: A K A Stone (#142)
I bet Walmart could do a good job of treating minor ailments.
#144. To: A K A Stone (#139)
When you give money to an evil organization like Planned Murder it is for abortion. It frees up other funds. Quit pretending.
#145. To: All (#141)
New York requires every insurance policy sold there to cover podiatry. Acupuncture coverage is mandated in 11 states, massage therapy in four, osteopathy in 24, and chiropractors in 47. There are an estimated 1,800 or so such insurance “mandates” across the country, and the costs add up.
#146. To: A K A Stone (#139)
Also show me the constitutional authority of giving money to a group of Eugenics murderers.
#147. To: lucysmom (#146)
#148. To: All (#145)
Now that I've said that it got me to thinking about Massachusetts and RomneyCare, gotta look that one up......
#149. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#143)
But you know just as well as I do the regulations won't allow that..... It's because of a pain in the ass little thing called "LAWYERS"......
#150. To: war (#137)
until you realize they make insurance so expensive that millions of people are exposed to financial ruin because they aren’t allowed to buy basic policies focused on catastrophic costs.
#151. To: go65 (#149)
Are you guys unaware that nany Walmarts already have medical clinics?
#152. To: go65 (#149)
Are you guys unaware that nany Walmarts already have medical clinics?
#153. To: war (#108)
#154. To: go65 (#149)
http://walmartstores.com/healthWellness/7613.aspx
#155. To: no gnu taxes (#153)
Clinton sued a lender named Accubank in 1998 under the CRA , forcing it a to write $2.1 billion in subprimes. Clinton then sued Columbia Mortgage in 1999, forcing it to write $6 billion in subprimes. You can see Clinton's Secretary of HUD (Andrew Cuomo) crowing about these "victories" on YouTube if you search just a bit.
#156. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#139)
When you give money to an evil organization like Planned Murder it is for abortion. It frees up other funds. Quit pretending.
#157. To: go65 (#131)
Our withdrawal from Iraq is still scheduled for completion by the date negotiated by the Bush administration. Obama never promised an immediate pullout.
#158. To: Liberator (#157)
(Edited)
a) 0bama certainly did schedule a pull out.
b) Few Dems have been outspoken in their criticism of 0bama, and IF they have, it's been barely a whisper compared to the cacophony of screeching criticism of Bush for the same thing. The hypocrisy and lies of Bamster and the Dems has been rife.
#159. To: go65 (#158)
And speaking of "hypocrisy", with all these Republicans complaining over the cost of our involvement in Libya,
#160. To: A K A Stone, All (#124)
But there are also good Republicans. There are few to zero good democrats.
#161. To: We The People (#160)
is like arguing which group of whores holds the most honor
#162. To: Happy Quanzaa (#161)
But it's easy enough to tell which whores cost more, just compare prices.
#163. To: war (#155)
are you this fucking stupid
#164. To: CZ82 (#140)
But when your wife is freaking out well what can you say, she had to go "right" then....
#165. To: lucysmom (#164)
A certain class of people have a decent chance. As my well insured parents aged, they frequently had seek second opinions from doctors outside their network in order to get treatment.
#166. To: no gnu taxes (#163)
Banks don't see color or ethnicity.
#167. To: CZ82 (#159)
Nothing foreign policy wise we've done in the last couple of years makes any sense..... Especially in the Middle East, if they don't get that area quieted down and get rid of the radicals the whole world will suffer for it.....
#168. To: CZ82 (#159)
I think it's because they feel what the hell are we doing there anyway??? There doesn't seem to be a goal or stategy for that matter....
#169. To: CZ82 (#165)
(Edited)
I would imagine some states are worse than others about that....
#170. To: lucysmom (#169)
States? It is in the insurance provider's interest to provide the least care possible (contain costs) to maximize profits and it looks like they're accomplishing just that.
#171. To: go65 (#168)
And yet Republicans like Gingrich and Limbaugh were clamoring for the President to act before he did.
#172. To: CZ82 (#170)
So are you saying you don't believe that the states have any control over the insurance companies?????? They mandate things all the time that the insurance companies have to cover..... which drives costs up instead of letting the customer determine what coverage he actually wants or needs......
#173. To: CZ82 (#170)
So are you saying you don't believe that the states have any control over the insurance companies?????? They mandate things all the time that the insurance companies have to cover..... which drives costs up instead of letting the customer determine what coverage he actually wants or needs......
#174. To: lucysmom (#173)
Go have another glass of "free market" Kool-aid.
#175. To: CZ82 (#174)
If that's true then why are so many companies getting waivers to opt out of it????? (over 1000 now and still growing). Maybe because it's gonna cost too much, and get even less in return...
#176. To: CZ82 (#174)
Speaking of partaking of the Koolaid...... does it taste like ca ca???
#177. To: lucysmom (#175)
Those are not waivers to opt out.
#178. To: lucysmom (#176)
You seem to be the caca expert, so in all matters caca, I defer to you.
#179. To: lucysmom, CZ82 (#176)
#180. To: war (#179)
#181. To: war (#179)
Actually I am the expert here and the first thing you have to do is spell it correctly...it's Cah-cah...
#182. To: CZ82 (#177)
A waiver means---"A dispensation, as from a rule or penalty"..... So basically it means "I don't have to play that game"....
#183. To: lucysmom (#182)
What does the word "temporary" mean? That's what the waivers are, temporary until there are other options in place.
#184. To: CZ82 (#183)
#185. To: CZ82 (#183)
ObozoCare will be gone sooner or later, either cut off at the knees by the Supreme Court in the next 6 months or repealed in a few years....
#186. To: Ferret Mike (#184)
You are just fooling yourself, they are not going to do such a ruling that would overturn the apple cart of so many legal precedents. Especially when at best it would be a 5-4 ruling.
#187. To: Ferret Mike (#184)
Justice Kennedy will go with the side affirming the new health care law. He is the swing vote.
#188. To: lucysmom (#185)
If Obama's health reform is struck down by the Supreme Court than that shoots down the Republican's Medicare reform proposal too.
#189. To: CZ82 (#188)
Big difference.....
#190. To: CZ82 (#188)
#191. To: lucysmom (#180)
#192. To: CZ82 (#187)
#193. To: CZ82 (#181)
#194. To: war (#191)
That caw-caw
#195. To: war (#166)
#196. To: no gnu taxes (#195)
#197. To: CZ82 (#67)
The next thing he/she will say is that Clinton created a surplus..... The GOP was in charge of the House and Senate at that time.....
#198. To: war (#196)
#199. To: no gnu taxes (#198)
Meanhile, you've provided no data that those mortgages defaulted.
#200. To: CZ82 (#171)
I listen to Rush everyday and don't remember him saying anything about taking any action against Khadafy. I do remember him asking the question "Just who are these Rebels anyway"??? Muslim Brotherhood??? Al Qaeda????? Iranian militants??
This guy's got a chip on his shoulder about the country. He doesn't believe in exceptionalism about America, doesn't believe in America's greatness. One of the reasons he's not doing anything in Libya with Khadafy -- has anybody got a clue? -- is he doesn't believe we have the moral authority to do anything other than mouth a bunch of words in the first place.
We had a caller say, "Why doesn't Obama stop the bullying in the Middle East?" I think it would help everybody to recall what Obama's opinion of this country is. He thinks this country has been a bully in the world. Look, you know it and I know it. He believes that this country is a bully. It's one of the reasons why he's not doing anything in Libya.
Where is Obama? I'm still amazed at how utterly out of it Obama is. Where is he? Has he checked out, is he sick? Are his handlers busy in other parts of the world? Get this. Mrs. Clinton has met with Libyan rebel leaders in Paris. Now, it's safe to do that, I figure, now that the revolution against Khadafy is safely lost. Khadafy's probably gonna win this or has won, so now it's safe to go meet with the rebel leaders, probably trying to arrange a place for 'em to live, Paris, Miami, LA. LA looks a lot like Libya, certain parts of it. I've been there. I have seen it. You've got that going on. I mean it's baffling. His handlers are busy in other parts of the world and unable to give him direction? What's going on? He's acting like a child.
Okay, so here's Libya. He doesn't even seem to care much less do anything about it, and people chalk it up to traditional explanations. "Well, he's looking at polling data, can't go in there because he criticized Bush, would look bad," all the standard conventional wisdom stuff of people trying to come up with the explanation. That's not it.
It's very simple. He doesn't look at America as the solution. We're the problem. He doesn't think the United States has any moral authority in places like Libya. In fact, I would venture to say that if you get Obama to be honest, he'd tell you that there have been times in our history when we have been Libya. We're no different. He probably thinks, who are we telling Khadafy what to do? Who are we to stand up for people around the world who want freedom? Hell, the way Obama looks at it, we've been denying freedom to our own citizens for who knows how long. I'm serious. I think the explanations for Obama's inaction, indecision are quite simple. He just doesn't have the view of America as an exceptional place, as a solution to the world's problems. He just doesn't.
Now, back to the Middle East for just a second, 'cause when I offered my theorem here that could it be the rebels in Libya are in fact the Muslim Brotherhood? We know that they probably are supported by Al-Qaeda. The Iranians are involved in supporting rebels in other parts of the Middle East. My friend Andy McCarthy has raised this point. Let's say that these rebels do represent the Muslim Brotherhood or Iran or Al-Qaeda and they are engaged in trying to get rid of Khadafy. Are we doing their dirty work? Now, this is something that has to be considered. We had a very long, drawn out discussion yesterday about US national interests, why it takes incredibly deep, intelligent, responsible people to make these kinds of judgments. We can topple the regime in Libya if we want to, but what would follow Khadafy? If it's the Muslim Brotherhood, then make no mistake, we are advancing Sharia law, we are helping the advance of Sharia law, we are empowering Iran.
Obama and Mrs. Clinton are suggesting now that we make it official, that we start arming the rebels in Libya. They are suggesting that we arm Al-Qaeda - and yet, ladies and gentlemen, we, you and me, are the extremists. We are arming Al-Qaeda in Libya!
#201. To: Badeye (#197)
And it was never actually a surplus, they just removed social security from the federal budget.
#202. To: war (#199)
Meanhile, you've provided no data that those mortgages defaulted.
#203. To: no gnu taxes (#202)
Meanhile, you've provided no data that those mortgages defaulted. .
#204. To: war (#203)
#205. To: no gnu taxes (#204)
Meanhile, you've provided no data that those mortgages defaulted. .
#206. To: war (#205)
#207. To: no gnu taxes (#206)
Meanhile, you've provided no data that those mortgages defaulted. .
#208. To: no gnu taxes (#206)
#209. To: CZ82 (#208)
#210. To: war (#209)
Padlock here is claiming that $6bln in bad loans were made. He's lying, of course.
#211. To: CZ82 (#210)
#212. To: war (#211)
His claim is that forcing Accubank to obey the law resulted in the bank making $6.1bln in bad loans.
#213. To: war (#211)
#214. To: CZ82 (#213)
#215. To: CZ82 (#213)
(Edited)
The Fort Worth Human Relations Commission and the City of Dallas filed two discrimination complaints in November 1997 based on tests conducted by the Fort Worth Commission under a HUD grant. The complaints alleged discrimination based on race and national origin in Accubane's lending practices.
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