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Title: Obama isn’t getting the message (wants more government "investment")
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Kansas City Star
URL Source: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/0 ... -isnt-getting-the-message.html
Published: Nov 6, 2010
Author: MATTHEW P. CLUNE
Post Date: 2010-11-06 15:24:26 by Hondo68
Keywords: Obamacare disaster, loss of Democrats, spend more on government
Views: 18877
Comments: 29
Barack Obama was right in 2008 when he said “elections have consequences, and I won.” He took that sentiment to heart and consequentially used his majorities and super-majorities to cram a boatload of legislation down our throats. On Tuesday, Obama and the Democrats endured what the president described as a “shellacking.” Pretty accurate. But what are the consequences of this shellacking? Gridlock is likely because Obama is resolute in his belief that more government is the answer to everything, and the new majority will oppose anything that even smells like more government or more spending. Obama’s strategy in the next two years, if nothing gets done, will be to blame the Republicans, again describing them as the “party of ‘no.’” This won’t work because if nothing happens, the economy will still be in dire straits, and Obama will lose in 2012. The nation’s resolve against larger government will have only strengthened. If he wants to win in 2012, Obama has to get something done. He has to be able to point to some improvement and say, “I did that, so vote for me.” Herein lies Obama’s problem, and a decided advantage for conservatives. To the core of his being, his definition of progress is more government and more spending, both of which were rejected by the voters on Tuesday. Here also is where conservatives can hope that Obama’s idealistic resolve will actually preclude any chance of his re-election in 2012. He is unlike Bill Clinton in that he is true to his convictions (despite what he says about helping businesses). Obama’s beliefs and policies don’t fluctuate with the polls. Hopefully, Obama’s genuine belief in larger government will continue to be revealed over the next two years, to the point that if anything of value does come out of this Congress, the Republicans can rightfully claim the credit. The president’s press conference on Wednesday showed that he is vulnerable to his own ideals. His tone was humble and he talked of changing his ways. But the substance of his remarks contradicted this sentiment. Time and again he was asked whether he admitted the elections were a rebuke against his policies, and time and again he dismissed these ideas and blamed the slow economy. When asked whether he accepted the fact that the Republicans will not allow any more spending bills, he (quite unbelievably, given the circumstances) responded by rattling off several areas in which he thought legislation and “investment” were needed. The reporter, again offering some reality, stated: “things that you just called investments they call wasteful spending.” At that point Obama officially started the blame game, saying that “without any Republican support on anything, then it’s going to be hard to get things done.” Here again is Obama’s reelection conundrum: his idea of “getting things done” is government stepping in, and the majority of American voters’ think it is government stepping out. The Obamacare disaster was an issue the president repeatedly and stubbornly defended. He refused to acknowledge any threat of repeal, or that it was the wrong thing for this country. He mourned the loss of Democrats who voted with “courage and conviction” for the bill, and said “it was the right thing to do.” He still doesn’t get it. This is one of the most understated positive realizations for conservatives after the elections. If Tuesday’s historic shellacking didn’t knock any liberal out of him, then nothing will. Obama continues to think that he knows better than others what’s best for people and that he has a higher calling, no matter what anyone says. Let’s hope he doesn’t change his mind anytime soon because elections have consequences, and we’ve got one coming up in 2012.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Hussein Soetoro's puppet masters could care less about the message.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/11/exit_poll_the_next_congress.html
Those polled want to reduce the deficit, while increasing government spending, and also cut taxes? That doesn't compute. They must have only polled diehard Republicans and Democrats. IOW, the lunatic fringe.
Is it really "investing" when the money is borrowed?
“There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”
No it doesn't - as Michael Kinsley noted the electorate can't decide whether it wants fat-free ice cream or sugar free chocolate cake.
Apparently it's ok to borrow to cut taxes but not to spend.
The recent elections were a fluke. Obama and the DNC should keep doing what they have been doing.
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Of course he gets the message... He just doesn't care... Recall the Mel Brookes movie "History of the World, Part I," where Count de Money is telling the King that the peasants are getting restless, because they think he doesn't care about them....? You remember that scene? The King replies, "don't care about the people? They're MY people... I LOVE my people..." Then he yells "Pull!" like he's at a skeet-shoot, and a couple of peasants fly through the air... He shoots them with a shotgun. As he turns to reload, he says with a low, satisfied tone, "he dropped like a stone." Going off memory here, but you get the point... oBUMa thinks he's a monarch, and that HIS desires are all the matter... The reality is that he's King Louis, just before the French Revolution. Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.
'Don't listen to what he says, watch what he DOES.' Charles Krauthammer
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Its not the governments money in the first place, so its not 'borrowing to cut taxes'. The basic false premise of liberals on this topic is the thing thats getting them fired in election cycles.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
The basic false premise of liberals on this topic is the thing thats getting them fired in election cycles. Perhaps you missed the refrain from numerous Republicans that tax cuts don't need to be offset by spending cuts? Oh, and this is the first election cycle since 2004 in which Republicans made gains, you might want to wait a few more cycles before identifying a trend.....
Nope, I see what the so called 'moderates' say...it just demonstrates my view that 'moderate republicans' are nothing more than liberal democrats without the balls to admit it. They are rank opportunists in short, and unworthy of consideration in a serious discussion on spending, or taxation.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Thats the same mistake Pelosi, Reid and Owe-bama made. The 'trend' began in Virginia. The alarms should have rang when Scott Brown won the seat you on the Left claimed to be 'the Kennedy seat'. The trend was then underscored by over 1,500 Tea Party rallies nationally AFTER Brown won. You on the Left ignored the clearest TREND since Reagan, and got a historic asskicking less than a week ago as a direct result. I will admit I'm surprised you are still exhibiting signs of denial here.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
That's true, and there's a very good chance Boehner and McConnell will make the same mistake too.
Moderates? Mitch McConnell, Mike Pence, and John Kyl are moderates?
Not til after 2012 in the case of McConnell. No chance with Boehner.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Like I was saying...
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Maybe you missed it, but Boehner has already backed away from a ban on earmarks and repealing health insurance reform. I'll remind you again that he not only voted for Medicare Part D and TARP, but he helped write "no child left behind".
You should listen to what he says, rather than rely on talking point memos. And I'm really bored with your fixation on Medicare Part D and TARP, and the whining about 'No child left behind'. I could care less. Its about what happens after January of 2011.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You should too: Yep, see my tag line.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/boehner-wont-promise-end-earmarks/
BAIER: The guys in line to be Chairman [of the Appropriations Committee], they're big fans of earmarks. BOEHNER: There's gonna be an earmark moratorium, it's pretty clear. BAIER: Why not an outright ban? BOEHNER: Only because some things that people call earmarks here wouldn't classify as an earmark to the American people. I watched the interview. Whats your point?
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I believe him. No reason not to. It will piss off the pigs in both parties, but he doesn't care about that, nor do I.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Chuckle....
He's Speaker. He's NEVER taken an earmark. Deal with it.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
And he's backing away from banning earmarks. You seem to have missed that.
You seem to have missed that. No, actually he isn't. The single biggest complaint about 'earmarks' has been the lack of transparancy. Thats going to be address. My view has always been 'I want to know who's asking for another cow fart study'. The database shows it. If these assholes that are 'kings and queeens of pork' have their names attached it will come to a stop. Or they'll get fired. I'm watching to see who ends up chairman of the appropriations committee on this one. We'll see.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You appear to be living on your own planet sometimes: That's not calling for transparency, that's calling for an outright ban.
The single biggest complaint about 'earmarks' has been the lack of transparancy. You appear to be living on your own planet sometimes: I'm citing the interviews that were available to everybody - except you apparently - on Chris Wallace's Sunday Fox News program. You should lose the personal attacks on things like this, not only are you wrong, but you look juvenile.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
#2. To: hondo68 (#0)
Thirty-seven percent say that spending to create jobs should be the highest priority for the Congress, which will have a GOP-controlled House and Democratic Senate. A similar number, 39 percent, say the top priority should be reducing the budget deficit. Eighteen percent cite cutting taxes as the highest priority.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#3. To: go65 (#2)
(Edited)
Thirty-seven percent say that spending to create jobs should be the highest priority for the Congress, which will have a GOP-controlled House and Democratic Senate. A similar number, 39 percent, say the top priority should be reducing the budget deficit. Eighteen percent cite cutting taxes as the highest priority.
#4. To: hondo68 (#0)
#5. To: hondo68 (#3)
Those polled want to reduce the deficit, while increasing government spending, and also cut taxes? That doesn't compute.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#6. To: Abcdefg (#4)
Is it really "investing" when the money is borrowed?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#7. To: hondo68 (#0)
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#8. To: hondo68 (#0)
Obama isn’t getting the message (wants more government "investment")
#9. To: hondo68 (#0)
#10. To: go65 (#6)
Apparently it's ok to borrow to cut taxes but not to spend.
#11. To: Badeye (#10)
(Edited)
Its not the governments money in the first place, so its not 'borrowing to cut taxes'.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#12. To: go65 (#11)
Perhaps you missed the refrain from numerous Republicans that tax cuts don't need to be offset by spending cuts?
#13. To: go65 (#11)
Oh, and this is the first election cycle since 2004 in which Republicans made gains, you might want to wait a few more cycles before identifying a trend.....
#14. To: Badeye (#13)
Thats the same mistake Pelosi, Reid and Owe-bama made.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#15. To: Badeye (#12)
ope, I see what the so called 'moderates' say...it just demonstrates my view that 'moderate republicans' are nothing more than liberal democrats without the balls to admit it. They are rank opportunists in short, and unworthy of consideration in a serious discussion on spending, or taxation.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#16. To: go65 (#14)
That's true, and there's a very good chance Boehner and McConnell will make the same mistake too.
#17. To: go65 (#15)
Kyle says tax cuts don't have to be paid for.
#18. To: Badeye (#16)
Not til after 2012 in the case of McConnell. No chance with Boehner.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#19. To: go65 (#18)
Maybe you missed it, but Boehner has already backed away from a ban on earmarks and repealing health insurance reform.
#20. To: Badeye (#19)
(Edited)
You should listen to what he says, rather than rely on talking point memos.
BAIER: The guys in line to be Chairman [of the Appropriations Committee], they're big fans of earmarks.
BOEHNER: There's gonna be an earmark moratorium, it's pretty clear.
BAIER: Why not an outright ban?
BOEHNER: Only because some things that people call earmarks here wouldn't classify as an earmark to the American people.
I could care less. Its about what happens after January of 2011.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#21. To: Badeye (#19)
"Why is there no mention of ending earmarks in this document?" Wallace asked Boehner on Fox News Sunday.
"Today, we have a moratorium on earmarks," Boehner answered. "And I can tell you that if Republicans win the majority in November, it will not be business as usual here in Congress."
"It's a one-year moratorium that ends in March," noted Wallace. "A number of your top leaders, including Congressman Jerry Lewis who will likely be the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, wants earmarks back. Are you willing to pledge right now if you take over the House, the Republicans do, earmarks will be gone forever?" he asked.
Boehner deflected the question. "It will not be business as usual in Washington, DC."
"That's not answering my question, sir," pressed Wallace.
"It will not be business as usual," Boehner repeated.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#22. To: go65 (#20)
You should too:
#23. To: go65 (#21)
"It will not be business as usual," Boehner repeated.
#24. To: Badeye (#23)
I believe him
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#25. To: go65 (#24)
#26. To: Badeye (#25)
He's Speaker. He's NEVER taken an earmark.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#27. To: go65 (#26)
And he's backing away from banning earmarks.
#28. To: Badeye (#27)
The single biggest complaint about 'earmarks' has been the lack of transparancy.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/11/09/demint-rounds-up-support-for-earmark-ban/
Sen. Jim DeMint (R., S.C.) has rounded up half the 12-member freshman class of Senate Republicans to cosponsor his proposal to ban earmarks, including high-profile tea party allies Marco Rubio of Florida and Rand Paul of Kentucky.
Mr. DeMint, who wants a vote on the ban next week by the GOP conference, is trying to capitalize on the influx of new members who campaigned against earmarks, Congress’s much-criticized practice of channelling appropriations to favored projects outside the competitive federal funding process.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#29. To: go65 (#28)
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