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Title: Palin “Desecrates” American Flag With Her Signature
Source: AlterNet
URL Source: http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy ... rican-flag-with-her-signature/
Published: Oct 21, 2010
Author: AlterNet
Post Date: 2010-10-21 13:14:44 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 9465
Comments: 18

Earlier this week Guardian journalist Ed Pilkington caught a cavalier Sarah Palin affixing her signature to Old Glory and an Ayn Rand book within a few short moments (1:33 in the video embedded below). Apparently that’s not so Kosher. Salon blogger Emma Mustich points out that signing the flag is a clear and direct  violation of flag code, although it’s likely to be protected by a slew of free speech rulings (that Palin likely opposes) which have deemed flag-burning protected by the first amendment.

While Palin’s act of “desecration” in and of itself will not stir up liberal outrage, the hypocrisy here is staggering. How would Sarah Palin and her ilk react if it were Barack Obama casually affixing his own John Hancock on the stars and stripes? Surely the outrage and cries of “traitor” would have reached fever pitch by now.

Palin’s treatment of the flag with the same “scrawl on it” attitude that a rockstar has towards a concert program perfectly sums up her credo of wrapping herself in Betsy Ross’ handiwork — she uses symbolic, shallow patriotism to shield herself and attack opponents.

Read the stories at The Guardian and Salon’s War Room. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Republicans have been desecrating the flag for a long time:


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-21   13:25:55 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   13:47:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#1)

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   13:49:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

Sold Date: 04/15/2006 Channel: Auction Source: Ira & Larry Goldberg Coins & Collectibles, Inc.

(Presidents) Flag Signed by Nine Presidents -- John F. Kennedy Through George W. Bush. An American flag signed by every President from John F. Kennedy in 1963 to George W. Bush in 2002. Each man was President when he signed the flag, which measures 3 feet 7 inches by 5 feet 9 inches. The signatures are on the two white stripes beneath the field of stars. On the first white stripe, from left to right:

(1) Gerald R. Ford signed and dated in black ball point pen, as President: `Gerald R. Ford 11/8/74 President USA.` (2) Richard Nixon signed and dated in blue ball point pen, as President: `Richard Nixon President February 17th, 1972.` (3) John F. Kennedy signed and dated in black ball point pen, as President: `For Dr. Bert Arthur with thanks and best wishes John Kennedy 1963.` (4) Lyndon B. Johnson signed and dated in black ball point pen, as President: `With best wishes Lyndon B. Johnson July 10th 1965.` (5) Jimmy Carter signed and dated in blue felt pen, as President: `Jimmy Carter 3/13/79.` On the second stripe, from left to right: (6) George H.W. Bush signed and dated in black felt pen, as President: `George Bush 7/12/91.` (7) Ronald Reagan, signed and dated in blue felt pen, as President: `With Best wishes Ronald Reagan the White House March 8, 1982.` (8) Bill Clinton signed and dated in black felt pen, as President: `Best wishes Bill Clinton 11/3/96.` (9) George W. Bush signed and dated in blue felt pen, as President: `Best wishes George W. Bush 2002.`

The flag was originally signed by President John F. Kennedy for Dr. Bert Arthur, a physician and friend of JFK`s. Dr. Arthur presented the flag to a prominent Dallas, Texas family whose political connections gave them access to every President from Lyndon B. Johnson through Bill Clinton; the flag was signed and dated by each President in a family member`s presence.

In 2000, the current owner acquired the flag. In 2002, he arranged a meeting with President George W. Bush at the Coffee Station in Crawford, Texas, where the President graciously signed and dated the flag, becoming the ninth consecutive President to do so.

This one-of-a-kind flag is in excellent condition. It has been handsomely framed to an overall size of 4 feet 1 inch by 6 feet. Please note: This item is not on site. It will be shipped by an art packing and shipping service only.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   13:56:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

Title: Jimmy Carter President Hand Signed Autographed United States Flag

new: New

Seller ID: 8038

Jimmy Carter President Hand Signed Autographed United States Flag. It is made of cloth and measures aprox. 4" x 6". Signature is crisp and clear. This is not a reproduction of the signature. This item comes with a certificate of authenticity from Tom's Celebrity Autographs and a Lifetime Money Back Guarantee.

Price = 44.00 USD

http://www.tomsautographs.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=1685&CLSN_2684=12876839822684ca0a01628d878673f6

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   14:02:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0)

RARE Original US 45 Star Flag Signed THEODORE ROOSEVELT

Item condition: --
Ended: Sep 26, 201004:28:39 PDT

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Original-US-45-Star-Flag-Signed-THEODORE-ROOSEVELT_W0QQitemZ180563123983QQcategoryZ39646QQcmdZViewItem

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   14:16:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#0)

Read the stories at The Guardian and Salon’s War Room.

I expect nothing more from the liberal c***suckers.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-21   14:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: WhiteSands (#6)

Nicely Done!

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-21   14:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye (#8)

There are so many Autographed flags that i finally stopped looking.

Crud they are even on ebay!

I never knew that autographing the US flag is considered desecration.

But then neither did Bill Clinton.

or Jimmy Carter

or JFK

or his brother

or Johnson

or Teddy Roosevelt.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   14:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: WhiteSands (#9)

I never knew that autographing the US flag is considered desecration.

Its not. The irony is the assholes suggesting this are the same ones that claim you can stand on the flag, piss on it, burn it, etc etc etc.

They've lost their freakin minds, WS. This is just dumb politics, just as insulting the TP daily has been shown to be 'dumb politics'. All they've done is make the average voter even angrier, 12 days before the election cycle.

That they don't SEE THIS is stunning. But I'm damn glad they don't.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-21   14:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#10) (Edited)

Apparently , given the monetary value of the autographed Flags , they are cherished by both sides of the political spectrum.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   15:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Brian S (#0)

December 18, 2001

U.S. Marines in Kandahar Receive a Signed American Flag sent from NYC.

The Large American Flag is Signed by New York Dignitaries, Victims Families, and others.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   15:55:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#0)

The Flag raised by the three weary firefighters at the WTC ruins was signed as well:

The flag that three weary firefighters raised from the ruins of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 was returned to them Tuesday in a solemn ceremony aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt.

The flag had been sent to the aircraft carrier in October as the ship steamed toward waters near Afghanistan. It flew on the carrier and six other ships in the war against terrorism.

As a sailor sang the Navy Hymn, three other sailors handed the folded flag to two of the three New York City firefighters, George Johnson and William Eisengrein, who hoisted the flag at Ground Zero. The image was caught in a newspaper photograph seen around the world.

"This is truly a humbling experience," Johnson told the Roosevelt crew. Johnson then presented a fire chief's helmet to Rear Adm. Mark P. Fitzgerald, commander of the Theodore Roosevelt's battle group, as the crew cheered.

About 5,500 sailors and Marines are aboard the Roosevelt, which departed Norfolk, Va., on Sept. 19 in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. The carrier, which is due to return to Norfolk on Wednesday, was about 300 miles off the Virginia coast during the brief ceremony Tuesday.

The New York delegation included police from New York City and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Several New York members of Congress also attended the service, as did House Speaker Dennis Hastert.

The third firefighter, Daniel McWilliams, could not make it to the ship because he attended the funeral of a firefighter who died in the attack, said Michael J. Handy, military liaison for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

The flag was signed by New York Gov. George Pataki and former Mayor Rudolph Giulani on Sept. 23 before it was presented to Adm. Robert J. Natter, commander in chief of the Atlantic Fleet. Natter directed that it be sent to the Roosevelt.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/26/terror/main504668.shtml

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   16:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: WhiteSands (#11)

Apparently , given the monetary value of the autographed Flags , they are cherished by both sides of the political spectrum.

Yep...but only the Left uses it like this.

They're flailing right now. I like it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-21   16:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#1) (Edited)

Seems a few Democratic Presidents didn't have any problem either... http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/presidents-flag-signed-by-nine-presidents-john-f (Presidents) Flag Signed by Nine Presidents -- John F. Kennedy Through George W. Bush. An American flag signed by every President from John F. Kennedy in 1963 to George W. Bush in 2002. Each man was President when he signed the flag, which measures 3 feet 7 inches by 5 feet 9 inches. The signatures are on the two white stripes beneath the field of stars. On the first white stripe, from left to right: (1) Gerald R. Ford signed and dated in black ball point pen, as President: `Gerald R. Ford 11/8/74 President USA.` (2) Richard Nixon signed and dated in blue ball point pen, as President: `Richard Nixon President February 17th, 1972.` (3) John F. Kennedy signed and dated in black ball point pen, as President: `For Dr. Bert Arthur with thanks and best wishes John Kennedy 1963.` (4) Lyndon B. Johnson signed and dated in black ball point pen, as President: `With best wishes Lyndon B. Johnson July 10th 1965.` (5) Jimmy Carter signed and dated in blue felt pen, as President: `Jimmy Carter 3/13/79.` On the second stripe, from left to right: (6) George H.W. Bush signed and dated in black felt pen, as President: `George Bush 7/12/91.` (7) Ronald Reagan, signed and dated in blue felt pen, as President: `With Best wishes Ronald Reagan the White House March 8, 1982.` (8) Bill Clinton signed and dated in black felt pen, as President: `Best wishes Bill Clinton 11/3/96.` (9) George W. Bush signed and dated in blue felt pen, as President: `Best wishes George W. Bush 2002.` The flag was originally signed by President John F. Kennedy for Dr. Bert Arthur, a physician and friend of JFK`s. Dr. Arthur presented the flag to a prominent Dallas, Texas family whose political connections gave them access to every President from Lyndon B. Johnson through Bill Clinton; the flag was signed and dated by each President in a family member`s presence. http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/presidents-flag-signed-by-nine-presidents-john-f http://www.ioffer.com/i/jimmy-carter-signed-autographed-united-states-flag-162369261 http://www.tomfolio.com/bookdetailsgg.asp?b=178BC&m=1376

dcatwell  posted on  2010-10-21   22:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: dcatwell (#15)

Seems a few Democratic Presidents didn't have any problem either.

yep - faux outrage is common on both sides.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-21   22:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65, dcatwell (#16)

Republicans have been desecrating the flag for a long time:

Honest of you to admit that your earlier post was faux outrage.

How many others were faux by you?

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   23:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Brian S (#0)

Palin’s act of “desecration”

Trying to understand reasoning.If Palin burned the flag it's o.k. but if she signs it she has committed a capital crime?

Why does Palin turn the Left near rabid?

downunder  posted on  2010-10-23   1:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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