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Title: 12 arguments evolutionists should avoid.
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URL Source: http://www.answersingenesis.org/get ... atures/arguments-evolutionists
Published: Jul 16, 2010
Author: answersingenesis.org
Post Date: 2010-07-16 18:49:15 by no gnu taxes
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For years, we’ve maintained a list of arguments creationists should avoid. There are enough good arguments for biblical accuracy and a young earth that dubious claims can safely be discarded. Now we want to address a similar topic: arguments evolutionists should avoid. These worn-out tropes have not only passed their expiration date, but they never should have been made to begin with.

Argument1 Evolution is a fact

When our core beliefs are attacked, it’s often easy for humans to retreat to statements such as this: “My belief is a fact, and yours is wrong.” That’s exactly why we cannot trust mere human understanding to explain the unobservable past—emotion and pride get in the way. Evolution is not a fact, no matter how many times evolutionists say it is. It’s a framework built on assumptions about the past—assumptions that will never have direct, first-hand, observational proof.

Argument 2 Only the uneducated reject evolution

Besides the arrogance of such statements, this argument has no footing and should be cast off. Mainly, those who make this claim usually define “educated people” as those who accept evolution. Anyone who disagrees fails the test, no matter what their background (e.g., if we follow this ideology, Isaac Newton must have been uneducated). There are many lists of well-educated scholars who look to the Bible for answers (here’s one)—and we could point out Darwin’s own deficit of formal education (he earned a bachelor’s in theology). But the bigger issue is that education—or lack—does not guarantee the validity of a person’s position.

Argument 3 Overwhelming evidence in all fields of science supports evolution

The irony, of course, is that for centuries prior to Darwin’s publication of On the Origin of Species, the majority of scientists found the opposite to be true: the “evidence” supported creation. What changed? Not the evidence. Rather, the starting point changed (i.e., moving from the Bible, God’s Word, to humanism, man’s word). Creationists continue to see everything in light of God’s Word and all evidence as supporting the biblical account. In reality, there is no “neutral” starting point; everyone—whether they acknowledge it or not—interprets the “facts” according to a particular way of thinking (i.e., worldview).

Argument 4 Doubting evolution is like doubting gravity

Why does this argument fail? We’ll show you. Take a pencil or pen. Hold it in the air. Then drop it to the floor. That’s gravity. Next, make a single-celled organism—like an amoeba—turn into a goat. Go ahead. We’ll wait. . . . No? As you can see, there’s a fundamental difference between operational science, which can be tested through repeatable experimentation, and historical science, which cannot.

Argument 5 Doubting evolution is like believing the earth is flat

Ironically, the Bible describes the earth as round and hanging in space—long before this could have been directly observed (Job 26:10; Isaiah 40:22). The appeal of this claim is that it stereotypes creationists as stuck in the past, since the common assumption is that people once universally believed the earth was flat before science “proved” otherwise (which wasn’t the case—only a few bought into the idea that the earth was flat). But even if this were true (it’s not), direct, repeatable observation shows us the earth is round and orbiting the sun. Evolutionary stories about fossils are not direct observations; they’re assumption-based beliefs.

Argument 6 It’s here, so it must have evolved

A conclusion does not prove the premises are true. That is, if the answer is “four,” we could arrive at that any number of ways: 2 + 2, 5 - 1, etc. In the same way, evolutionists often assume that since certain species or traits exist, this is proof of evolution because that’s how it must have happened. This argument, however, is self-reflexive and useless. The Bible offers another (and more sound) framework for how those traits and species came to be.

Argument 7 Natural selection is evolution

This is likely the most abused argument on the list—and most in need of being scrapped. Often evolutionists bait people into showing them a change that is merely natural selection and then switch to say this proves molecules-to-man evolution. However, this is quite misleading. Natural selection, even according to evolutionists, does not have the power to generate anything “new.” The observable process can only act upon existing characteristics so that some members of a species are more likely to survive. In fact, it’s an important component of the biblical worldview.

Argument 8 Common design means common ancestry

Historical common descent is not and cannot be confirmed through observation. Rather, certain observations are explained by assumptions about the past. These observations, we might add, have alternative explanations. Common body plans (homology), for example, do not prove common descent—that’s an assumption. A common Designer fits the evidence just as well, if not better.

Argument 9 Sedimentary layers show millions of years of geological activity

Sedimentary layers show one thing: sedimentary layers. In other words, we can—and should—study the rocks, but the claim that rocks prove the earth must be billions of years old ignores one important point: such an interpretation is built upon a stack of assumptions. When we start from the Bible and examine the rocks within the framework of a global Flood, the need for long ages vanishes.

Argument 10 Mutations drive evolution

Perhaps because of movies and fiction, the popular idea is that mutations make evolution go. Given enough time, shifts in the genetic code will produce all the variety of plants and animals on earth—and beyond. The problem? Mutations cannot produce the types of changes evolution requires—not even close. Some may benefit an organism (e.g., beetles on a windy island losing wings), but virtually every time mutations come with a cost.

Argument 11 The Scopes trial

Misconceptions about the Scopes trial run rampant. Often, accounts sound something like this: Fundamentalist Christian bigots arrested an innocent biology teacher fighting for scientific freedom, and while they won the court case, they ultimately lost the public perception battle to the well reasoned presentation of the defense. Thanks to the play Inherit the Wind, this common—though completely flawed—perception of the event continues to be used against creationists. But real history presents a much different account.

Argument 12 Science vs. religion

News stories thrive on conflict and intrigue, and one common meme presents science and religion as opposing forces—reason struggling to overcome draconian divine revelation. It grabs attention, but it’s bunk. Many atheists and humanists oppose biblical Christianity, but science does not. After all, the truth of a risen Savior and an inerrant Bible puts quite the damper on the belief that God cannot exist. However, science, as a tool for research, works quite well within (and, in fact, requires) a God-created universe. Otherwise, there’d be no reason to do science in the first place.

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#2. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Evolution is not a fact

That's a lie. We see it in disease all the time.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   21:15:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#2)

No one said mutations don't happen. When do new species emerge? NEVER!

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   21:34:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#4)

No one said mutations don't happen.

Padlock's article just did.

war  posted on  2010-07-17   8:10:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#23)

On mutations. They are not good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-17   8:13:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#25)

On mutations. They are not good.

Since we evolved from genderless unicellular life into the multi-cellular complex sex crazed organisms that we are now, not all mutations are bad.

war  posted on  2010-07-17   8:24:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: war (#27)

Since we evolved from genderless unicellular life into the multi-cellular complex sex crazed organisms that we are now

evidence please. Oh yeah there is none. All the fossil record says FLOOD!

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-17   17:12:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: A K A Stone (#65)

...evidence please.

You ***think*** the earth is a few thousand years old.

Evidence please.

"The Bible says so" is not evidence.

war  posted on  2010-07-17   19:40:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#76)

"The Bible says so" is not evidence.

The bible contradicts itself constantly, which is exactly what one would expect from a work written by dozens or hundreds of different men at many different times in history.

Then, of course, it was edited, copied, edited, copied, edited, copied, edited, copied, each time introducing more changes and errors from previous scrolls.

You'd think that a god who was powerful enough to create everything could at the very least have left an original copy of "his" word, one that didn't rely on multiple translations to be understood.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-17   19:54:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Skip Intro (#79) (Edited)

You'd think that a god who was powerful enough to create everything could at the very least have left an original copy of "his" word, one that didn't rely on multiple translations to be understood.

I saw a great show on the Science Channel last week on the origin of the universe. One physicist was postulating that we are living in a computer simulation. There is evidence (quantum entanglement) that the universe may be a big hologram. At a fundamental level, the universe is made of particles (akin to a pixel on a computer screen). Humans are increasingly able to create simulations of environments (like SIM City and others). Computer price / performance is doubling every 13 months. How much longer until we can build a simulation like the "Matrix"??? About 80 years.

Here are two facts;

Astrophysicist have no idea how the universe got here. There is evidence of a big bang, but how did it start and what came before? They don't know. There are many theories, but in the end they admit they are just theories.

Evolutionists have no evidence of one species evolving into a new species. They have a theory, but they refuse to admit that it's just a theory and they claim that evolution can never be dis-proven. A scientific theory is always open to being dis-proven by experimentation and observation. Claiming that your theory cannot be dis-proven makes evolution a belief system, not a science. That's THE problem I have with with this entire argument.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-18   12:33:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: jwpegler (#115)

Astrophysicist have no idea how the universe got here.

Evolutionists have no evidence of one species evolving into another. They have a theory, but they refuse to admit that it's just a theory and they claim that evolution can never be dis-proven.

True. I've never seen anyone claim otherwise.

Not true. Species don't "evolve into another", they evolve into something new. Evolution is a theory, just like Newtonian physics is a theory. The fact is the theory works pretty well, just like Newtonian physics did. Theories evolve to explain phenomena that can no longer be explained by older theories.

I think it's safe to say that there isn't a scientist in the world who wouldn't love to propose a theory that disproves evolution. That's what scientists do; it's what they live for.

I'll put my money on them instead of a thousands of year old collection of myths, many of which were lifted from even older myths.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-18   13:02:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Skip Intro (#119)

I think it's safe to say that there isn't a scientist in the world who wouldn't love to propose a theory that disproves evolution. That's what scientists do; it's what they live for.

I don't agree. Sciences have their established orders too. The established order doesn't like to be challenged, let alone overturned.

The difference between astrophysics and evolutionist is that we are developing new telescopes and super-computer capabilities that have observed and analyzed things that have validated some theories and invalidated others. Over the last 15 years, experimentation and observation have taught us that we don't know as much as we think we did in the 1960s and 1970s.

With regards to evolution, there have not been any experiments that have validated or invalidated the theory. So, it's just a theory, not a fact. We haven't been able to create life from a "primordial soup" in spite of trying for 5 decades (there are three new well publicized attempts to do this today). We have never seen one species evolve into a new species. So, evolution is just a unproven theory, yet there is almost a religious fervor attached to it. ditto with man-made "global warming".

I don't like religious fervors. I like facts.

I am not a very religious person. There is more "proof" for the phrase: "and God said 'let their be light'" (it's called the big bang) than there is for the notion that humans evolved from pond scum.

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